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10-25-2020, 11:25 AM | #11 |
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It probably would have undermined the stakes at the time too much, but I was hoping Touma would have been a lot more freaked out at the Arthur robot swinging him around like a sword, and yelling in pain the first few times his blade body made contact. It's already a pretty delightfully absurd concept for a form, so might as well lean in to it a bit more, right?
He was talking about Buster, and was rubbing in the fact that their ally got petrified. To be fair, the actor probably could have put a bit more arrogance into the delivery. |
10-25-2020, 11:33 AM | #12 |
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The actor really didn't make me feel it that way... *cough* no wonder he is my least fav out of the 3 meggidos *cough* |
10-25-2020, 11:50 AM | #13 |
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The thought I kept having with this one is how anti-Sentai it felt, funnily enough? It's a story about five heroes coming together as one that ends with a giant robot fighting a monster, and yet, it's everything about how it plays out that makes it more clear than ever to me this is very much a Kamen Rider show.
Sentai teams just don't have to work for these things the same way, you know? The swordsmen here, we see so much of them standing around in the same rooms, but they don't give off any real feeling of unity until the very end of the episode, and I thought that really worked in favor of what the plot was about. It felt earned seeing Touma literally write the conclusion to this story, and everyone putting their fists together at the end was more satisfying than I expected. So, yeah, I guess that's pretty much the short of it. Not a lot of detail I really feel the need to go into (the direction's still great; loved seeing Gridon and Bravo for no reason), but I thought this episode was super solid and totally works as a sort of mid-season finale deal since the show's taking the next week off. Good times as always with Saber.
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10-25-2020, 01:02 PM | #14 |
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So, if we're going on the info that previous Saber is Calibur (judging from how the picture fold from Hayato's side first, slowing closing in on previous Saber), what are the chances that Hayato is still alive and either takes the Calibur belt back or gets another belt?
Calibur's getting Ja-Oh very early and the belt doesn't seem to really do much as a toy so I'm betting Hayato takes it back and goes as-is for the rest of the show or Calibur dies. |
10-25-2020, 01:22 PM | #15 |
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This episode all around didn't work for me.
But before I explain why, first the parts I actually liked: - Sora is the MVP of this episode. The thought that a child would trust its father so much to simply ignore a whole group of sad swordsmen and instead tell the one guy who thinks is at fault for getting the dad killed to hold his head up high and win next time was awesome. - The story of a character being too focused on mastering a needed power instead of realizing what he already has and accepting the helping hands reaching out to him is great. Also flows together very well with King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table. - The Oren & Jonouchi cameo was awesome. Really fun and so fitting for today’s reveals. Just fantastic. But then - everything else. Oh boy. First of all, as much as I like it… all of this happening in one episode was just too much and undermined the overall impact of the payoff. Touma focusing so much on King Arthur's power seems to come out of the blue. The pieces are there: The buildup needed to go to Avalon, knowing how Calibur affects Kento, the challenge brought forth by the mysterious sage and of course the responsibility of living up to everyone’s expectations etc. But they don't work together, not in this short of a timespan. This needed 2-3 more episodes to really get going. Same with the sacrifice of Ogami, it's resolved so fast you can't really be bothered to care. Then there's just straight up dumb stuff that distracted my so much - Ogami cancels his transformation why exactly? You don’t have any other means to shield Saber? No fancy book, anything? It felt very obligatory, the show wanted to make this happen without caring to make it logical. How much does Ogami's sword weigh? Are they seriously expecting me to believe a child can just hold it? The hell? Touma gives it to Sora like the plastic prop it is and that just didn't compute with me at all. The Arthur robot - just no. Dumb and uninspired toy advertisement at its worst. Monster grows giant just because, giant sword appears just because, giant sword transforms just because. I admit Saber becoming an actual sword was worth a smile but overall this whole ordeal was insultingly stupid. Not worth anyone’s time and a terrible way to ruin a decent group fight scene. Calibur's identity - really? That's it? Everyone saw this coming a mile away. I really wanted this to be more interesting and there's still potential, but I don't like the direction where this is heading. Lastly the same procedure as every week: Mei sucks and I wish she wasn't in this show. Annoying ass useless character. Anyways, next week is a Rider debut I'm quite excited about. I'm looking forward to seeing Slash in action. |
10-25-2020, 01:42 PM | #16 |
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I don't think we ever got a good shot of it, but it looked like when Ren used the 3 Little Pigs book to copy himself, each copy had an arm-shield based on a different one of the three houses. Nice attention to detail there, along with the 3 gorgon sisters, the connection between Touma believing in his friends and Arthur believing in his knights, and the Journey to the West book making Calibur's sword stretch like Sun Wukong's staff.
Now that I think about it, wasn't there also a story in Arthurian myth about two dragons fighting? They were red and white instead of red and black/purple, but I vaguely remember a story where Merlin saw a vision of two dragons fighting over a castle. Overall, I'm really liking how often Saber references details from the books it's drawing on, it makes it feel like the series is really about books instead of just using them for an aesthetic. It's similar to what Ghost tried to do with historical figures, but integrated into the story much better.
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10-25-2020, 01:49 PM | #17 |
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The thought I kept having with this one is how anti-Sentai it felt, funnily enough? It's a story about five heroes coming together as one that ends with a giant robot fighting a monster, and yet, it's everything about how it plays out that makes it more clear than ever to me this is very much a Kamen Rider show.
Sentai teams just don't have to work for these things the same way, you know? The swordsmen here, we see so much of them standing around in the same rooms, but they don't give off any real feeling of unity until the very end of the episode, and I thought that really worked in favor of what the plot was about. It felt earned seeing Touma literally write the conclusion to this story, and everyone putting their fists together at the end was more satisfying than I expected. So, yeah, I guess that's pretty much the short of it. Not a lot of detail I really feel the need to go into (the direction's still great; loved seeing Gridon and Bravo for no reason), but I thought this episode was super solid and totally works as a sort of mid-season finale deal since the show's taking the next week off. Good times as always with Saber.
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10-25-2020, 02:19 PM | #18 |
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I liked this one. Quite a bit, in fact. This is the first episode that feels like everything is really clicking for me. The show's still paced like it's running 12 episodes instead of ~48, but apart from that I legitimately enjoyed this episode. The character stuff worked, the fights were actually pretty good, and I've embraced Saber's inherent weirdness enough that the Touma sword totally didn't phase me.
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10-25-2020, 02:36 PM | #19 |
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So I'd found it unitentionally funny that in the middle of the episode where Touma is having everybody words reflected back that Ren wasn't there at all. Also the fact that Zooous actor wasn't physically in the episode only showing up in monster form with the other two in thier human forms was quite jarring. Hope nothing bad happened to the actor.
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10-25-2020, 02:48 PM | #20 |
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As for this episode, it was pretty neat. It was a nice way to basically show everyone working together as a team and it's just nice to see the scale of these fights at times. I wasn't really worried about Ryo biting the dust, like I said in the last thread, I was more worried if the Megid were going to act smart and smash him. But alas, Buster is spared. Also I knew Oren's actor was going to cameo, possibly as Oren, I wasn't expecting Jonouchi to be there too. That was fun. Also yeah King of Arthur is as wacky and insane as I expected. Leave it to Saber to have our King Arthur Robot slice through a Meteor and a Medusa Monster by using Saber's head as an actual sword! I do hope those who were asking for Saber to have their Riders use their head crests as weapons are satisfied with this showing. Because I know I am and I want to see more of it. |
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