Kamen Rider ZI-O News and Rumours Disscussion Thread

AkibaSilver · 04-06-2019, 09:30 AM

Yeah, as other people have said, the summer film is where I expect them to give us Another Ichigou. I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen any Showa Ridewatches yet, but with all the focus on celebrating the end of the Heisei era, it's semi-understandeable.

If I could pick literally anything, what I'd love it to do is, being a movie and all, give us Another Shin. After all, he was the first Rider of the Heisei era, and there's probably a narrative in there about Riders being paragons of justice vs brutal warriors, using any means to justify the ends.

FerrousMaelstrom · 04-06-2019, 04:14 PM

Another Shin just looks like a normal Rider. Maybe it could be his son?

Showa Riders are sort of against the point - Zi-O is meant to be the ultimate Heisei Rider, so they're not really relevant to him. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised by a movie or video having him meet at least one Showa rider, then they can sell all the Showa watches as a Premium Bandai set

AkibaSilver · 04-06-2019, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FerrousMaelstrom

Another Shin just looks like a normal Rider. Maybe it could be his son?

Showa Riders are sort of against the point - Zi-O is meant to be the ultimate Heisei Rider, so they're not really relevant to him. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised by a movie or video having him meet at least one Showa rider, then they can sell all the Showa watches as a Premium Bandai set

That's what's surprising me, more than anything. I know Showa riders are irrelevant to the plot, but that also applies to every other Rider that hasn't featured, yet that's not stopped them releasing a couple dozen ridewatches that don't look to be appearing in the show at all.

Kurona · 04-06-2019, 05:30 PM

You know what would be really cool, though I realise they absolutely won't do it and will save it for the rider movie immediately after?

Another [First Reiwa Rider]

Sunred · 04-06-2019, 06:09 PM

Thing with Shin, ZO, and J is that people oddly considers them phase 3 Showa these days it seems, but apparently during the behind the scenes video for Kamen Rider J, the term Neo Riders was used to group these three. Personally if Toei decides to draw the line at Kuuga grouping them as Neo Riders seems plausible considering they are technically not created during the Showa era.

Kurona · 04-06-2019, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunred

Thing with Shin, ZO, and J is that people oddly considers them phase 3 Showa these days it seems, but apparently during the behind the scenes video for Kamen Rider J, the term Neo Riders was used to group these three. Personally if Toei decides to draw the line at Kuuga grouping them as Neo Riders seems plausible considering they are technically not created during the Showa era.

Black RX was also technically aired in the Heisei era, right?

AkibaSilver · 04-06-2019, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Black RX was also technically aired in the Heisei era, right?

A quick google tells me it started in Showa, finished in Heisei, so technically yes? In the same was as Zi-O, really.

Sunred · 04-06-2019, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver

A quick google tells me it started in Showa, finished in Heisei, so technically yes? In the same was as Zi-O, really.

But because RX and Zi-O started broadcasting during Showa and Heisei respectively, RX is technically the last Showa rider and Zi-O is the last Heisei rider. Zi-O may air during the Reiwa era but that won't make him the first Reiwa rider. He already cut the grand opening ribbon during the end of the Heisei Era figuratively speaking thus making him a Heisei Rider.

Paladin · 04-06-2019, 07:41 PM

Toshiki Kagyu will be returning for the role of Shoichi Tsukai, Kamen Rider Agito!

https://twitter.com/toei_rider_ZIO/s...86766500466688

AkibaSilver · 04-06-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunred

But because RX and Zi-O started broadcasting during Showa and Heisei respectively, RX is technically the last Showa rider and Zi-O is the last Heisei rider. Zi-O may air during the Reiwa era but that won't make him the first Reiwa rider. He already cut the grand opening ribbon during the end of the Heisei Era figuratively speaking thus making him a Heisei Rider.

We all know the first Reiwa Rider is Shinobi anyway, so does it really matter?
(Unless Ginga is from before 2022, at least.)

04-06-2019, 09:30 AM	#1691
AkibaSilver Warrior of Delusions! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wait, you dont know either? Posts: 5,695	Yeah, as other people have said, the summer film is where I expect them to give us Another Ichigou. I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen any Showa Ridewatches yet, but with all the focus on celebrating the end of the Heisei era, it's semi-understandeable. If I could pick literally anything, what I'd love it to do is, being a movie and all, give us Another Shin. After all, he was the first Rider of the Heisei era, and there's probably a narrative in there about Riders being paragons of justice vs brutal warriors, using any means to justify the ends. __________________ Check out my blog! https://akibamusings.blogspot.com/

04-06-2019, 04:48 PM	#1693
AkibaSilver Warrior of Delusions! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wait, you dont know either? Posts: 5,695	Quote: Originally Posted by FerrousMaelstrom Another Shin just looks like a normal Rider. Maybe it could be his son? Showa Riders are sort of against the point - Zi-O is meant to be the ultimate Heisei Rider, so they're not really relevant to him. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised by a movie or video having him meet at least one Showa rider, then they can sell all the Showa watches as a Premium Bandai set That's what's surprising me, more than anything. I know Showa riders are irrelevant to the plot, but that also applies to every other Rider that hasn't featured, yet that's not stopped them releasing a couple dozen ridewatches that don't look to be appearing in the show at all. __________________ Check out my blog! https://akibamusings.blogspot.com/

04-06-2019, 06:09 PM	#1695
Sunred Ex-Weather Three leader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 9,889	Thing with Shin, ZO, and J is that people oddly considers them phase 3 Showa these days it seems, but apparently during the behind the scenes video for Kamen Rider J, the term Neo Riders was used to group these three. Personally if Toei decides to draw the line at Kuuga grouping them as Neo Riders seems plausible considering they are technically not created during the Showa era. __________________ Last edited by Sunred; 04-06-2019 at 06:17 PM..

04-06-2019, 07:24 PM	#1697
AkibaSilver Warrior of Delusions! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wait, you dont know either? Posts: 5,695	Quote: Originally Posted by Kurona Black RX was also technically aired in the Heisei era, right? A quick google tells me it started in Showa, finished in Heisei, so technically yes? In the same was as Zi-O, really. __________________ Check out my blog! https://akibamusings.blogspot.com/

04-06-2019, 07:37 PM	#1698
Sunred Ex-Weather Three leader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 9,889	Quote: Originally Posted by AkibaSilver A quick google tells me it started in Showa, finished in Heisei, so technically yes? In the same was as Zi-O, really. But because RX and Zi-O started broadcasting during Showa and Heisei respectively, RX is technically the last Showa rider and Zi-O is the last Heisei rider. Zi-O may air during the Reiwa era but that won't make him the first Reiwa rider. He already cut the grand opening ribbon during the end of the Heisei Era figuratively speaking thus making him a Heisei Rider. __________________ Last edited by Sunred; 04-06-2019 at 07:40 PM..