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04-02-2023, 05:24 PM | #11 |
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It looks like I'm definitely planning to watch Ultraman Z somewhere down the line both in Japanese and in English. Wonder if this means the English dub would be included whenever this series makes its official US release via Blu-Ray.
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04-02-2023, 06:04 PM | #12 |
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I'm pretty interested in this conceptually. Dubs are great for accessibility (notably this dub of a show meant for kids will make it more accessible for english speaking kids).
While I'm a very subs over dubs person for live action specifically, and I love the cast and acting in Z as it is... This certainly will introduce more people to this excellent show, which is great. The casting sure is... something alright... Z's actor seems very prolific, but seems to have more small roles than major ones, and I'm not familiar with any of his work really, so I'm curious to see how he does... Same goes for Yoko and Yuka's voices who I'm not familiar with either... Zeno Robinson is an actor I've liked a lot in other shows, and I think he'll do a good job of delivering some Haruki's emotional beats. Christopher Sabat is really interesting and kinda weird, him producing the dub makes me very curious though. On the other hand Mick Lauer... To put it nicely, this is a guy who I don't really like personally..... And he's voicing one of my all time favourite characters from the Ultra Series.......... Yaaaaaaayyyy........... Still I'm interested nonetheless, if the dub is any good it could be something I could show some of my younger family members someday (who are too young for subtitles), which could be fun Guess we'll see Quote:
As far as I know, currently Mill Creek (who does the blu rays) only has a contract that goes from Ultra Q to Ultraman R/B, since R/B was the newest show at the time the deal was made. Hopefully Tsubaraya will update their deal at some point so we can get some of the newer shows physically though (I would love to watch Z with blu ray quality bit rate and no web-upload compression!!) Last edited by TheJaz; 04-02-2023 at 06:07 PM.. |
04-02-2023, 06:56 PM | #13 |
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I’ve seen some of Z’s work before. Hehehe…
Even though Eli Jay’s out of the business, Z’s still voiced by an Xyz user. I find this hilarious.
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04-02-2023, 08:03 PM | #14 |
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As far as I know, currently Mill Creek (who does the blu rays) only has a contract that goes from Ultra Q to Ultraman R/B, since R/B was the newest show at the time the deal was made.
Hopefully Tsubaraya will update their deal at some point so we can get some of the newer shows physically though (I would love to watch Z with blu ray quality bit rate and no web-upload compression!!) |
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04-02-2023, 09:23 PM | #16 |
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Generally there's a lot of context to take in........ This is gonna be highly editorialized, but here's a sort of summary of the context. After Tsubaraya wrote up the deal with Mill Creek, Taiga aired on TV in Japan, a bit before this Tsubaraya had cut their deal with Crunchyroll after Geed finished airing. And likely behind the scenes they were brainstorming ways to keep releasing the series outside Japan... However Taiga was already airing before they came to any concrete decision, and I think it essentially got tossed aside in a "well, we missed our chance with this one" sort of way. At some point they decided on the YouTube release method we've become used to in recent years, but decided to go all in on beginning that process with their next show so they could have it release simultaneously with Japan. Some important context for why Z was a better choice than Taiga... While I think people often think of simul-subbing as just "a convenient thing", and don't give it much thought nowadays, a big context for why it's become popular with big companies is that it can deter piracy (sort of). Back in the day official anime subs could be weeks, months, or years behind their release in Japan, and often by the time they made it out, fans of that series had already watched a fansub and may not be as likely to pay for often pricey physical releases. But now with simul-subbing, official releases come out ahead of any pirated versions that appear, so if you want to get to see the new episode of your favourite show as soon as possible, official is now the clear best option. So this was likely a big factor in choosing to skip Taiga, the mentality at Tsubaraya was likely that most existing fans of the franchise had simply already seen it, and releasing it late would not generate "maximum revenue". Consider that, even with blu ray releases of old series, official physical media mostly sells to existing fans (especially as physical media collecting becomes more and more of an enthusiast hobby). Just generally, people don't usually buy a whole show on a whim without knowing if they like it first. All in all Z was their best choice to drum up hype and attention... The show is brand new, the sub is official, it's release is nearly simultaneous, AND it's free on YouTube! That's gonna generate buzz! I still think they may release Taiga eventually, but it would require producing new subtitles, which may slow down that process (Most Mill Creek releases have used existing subs from previous releases... I may be wrong but I believe the majority of new subs from them have been for Showa Era series?) For streaming specifically, Tsubaraya likely doesn't think it will generate as many views or as much revenue as a "brand new show" would. They may be wrong about this as to a lot of their existing subscribers Taiga would be a new show, but it's very possible this is how they think about it. It costs money to make subs, and releasing on YouTube already isn't the best way to monetize content generally, so they probably want to play things as safe as they can. Overall, Taiga is likely just not a high priority.... Honestly, even if they extend their deal with Mill Creek and Taiga does get a physical release, I would not be shocked if we saw Z, Trigger, and Decker releases way before Taiga, because those shows already have existing official subs, so the process for them is basically just clicking and dragging sub files into the disc burning processing lol This was basically just a very long way of saying "Tsubaraya's marketing team probably said this would be better", and at the end of the day Tsubaraya is here to make money. Last edited by TheJaz; 04-02-2023 at 10:42 PM.. |
04-03-2023, 10:28 AM | #17 |
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Huh, that is a surprise, but a welcome one.
Okay choice for a show as well; even if it's incredibly average as a show, it's not bad. Yeah, I'm up for this and quietly hoping it does well enough that we'd get to Decker.
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04-03-2023, 02:16 PM | #18 |
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The Taiga situation is very odd... It's extra funny when you consider that Taiga Episode 0, and the Taiga movie do have official subs.
Generally there's a lot of context to take in........ This is gonna be highly editorialized, but here's a sort of summary of the context. After Tsubaraya wrote up the deal with Mill Creek, Taiga aired on TV in Japan, a bit before this Tsubaraya had cut their deal with Crunchyroll after Geed finished airing. And likely behind the scenes they were brainstorming ways to keep releasing the series outside Japan... However Taiga was already airing before they came to any concrete decision, and I think it essentially got tossed aside in a "well, we missed our chance with this one" sort of way. At some point they decided on the YouTube release method we've become used to in recent years, but decided to go all in on beginning that process with their next show so they could have it release simultaneously with Japan. Some important context for why Z was a better choice than Taiga... While I think people often think of simul-subbing as just "a convenient thing", and don't give it much thought nowadays, a big context for why it's become popular with big companies is that it can deter piracy (sort of). Back in the day official anime subs could be weeks, months, or years behind their release in Japan, and often by the time they made it out, fans of that series had already watched a fansub and may not be as likely to pay for often pricey physical releases. But now with simul-subbing, official releases come out ahead of any pirated versions that appear, so if you want to get to see the new episode of your favourite show as soon as possible, official is now the clear best option. So this was likely a big factor in choosing to skip Taiga, the mentality at Tsubaraya was likely that most existing fans of the franchise had simply already seen it, and releasing it late would not generate "maximum revenue". Consider that, even with blu ray releases of old series, official physical media mostly sells to existing fans (especially as physical media collecting becomes more and more of an enthusiast hobby). Just generally, people don't usually buy a whole show on a whim without knowing if they like it first. All in all Z was their best choice to drum up hype and attention... The show is brand new, the sub is official, it's release is nearly simultaneous, AND it's free on YouTube! That's gonna generate buzz! I still think they may release Taiga eventually, but it would require producing new subtitles, which may slow down that process (Most Mill Creek releases have used existing subs from previous releases... I may be wrong but I believe the majority of new subs from them have been for Showa Era series?) For streaming specifically, Tsubaraya likely doesn't think it will generate as many views or as much revenue as a "brand new show" would. They may be wrong about this as to a lot of their existing subscribers Taiga would be a new show, but it's very possible this is how they think about it. It costs money to make subs, and releasing on YouTube already isn't the best way to monetize content generally, so they probably want to play things as safe as they can. Overall, Taiga is likely just not a high priority.... Honestly, even if they extend their deal with Mill Creek and Taiga does get a physical release, I would not be shocked if we saw Z, Trigger, and Decker releases way before Taiga, because those shows already have existing official subs, so the process for them is basically just clicking and dragging sub files into the disc burning processing lol This was basically just a very long way of saying "Tsubaraya's marketing team probably said this would be better", and at the end of the day Tsubaraya is here to make money. |
04-08-2023, 04:52 PM | #19 |
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So saw roughly the first ten minutes of episode 1 and two scenes have given me the assurance that I was hoping for to consider this a success. First, Haruki and the puppy scene. Second, when Haruki is scolded. The voice acting in these two scenes were perfect.
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04-08-2023, 10:05 PM | #20 |
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So I checked out the first episode dubbed.
First things first, it definitely has to be commended how much more professional and effective this dub is compared to the Ultra Galaxy Fight dubs. You can tell this was produced by people who know what they're doing in voiceover and who have experience dubbing. Granted it might be a little jarring watching English lines come out of live-action Japanese actors mouths (and it's probably a lot harder to match lip flaps for live-action than anime), but it's still seems very well-produced so far. Zeno Robinson is really solid as Haruki. He does a good job of capturing Haruki's enthusiasm and endearing innocence so far. His Haruki is a little more high-pitched compared to Kohshu Hirano, but I adjusted pretty well. Mick Lauer voice for our favorite sword-wielding alien sounds less laidback as Hebikura than I remember, though I might just be thinking of how he is in later episodes. I think the real test for his character will be when he gets to play Juggler because of how different he presents himself there compared to as Hebikura and the contrast between the two. Mallorie Rodak captures Yoko's serious and mature lady vibes quite well, though I'm curious how she'll handle the "Zett-sama!!!" stuff. Macy Anne Johsnon is perfect as Yuka. Literally no complaints there. She's as cute and likeable as she is with Hikari Kuroki. The fact that they got Sean Schemmel, literally Goku himself, to voice Ultraman Zero is amazing. It wouldn't be a voice I would normally associate with Zero, but for the meme potential...I can only imagine who this team would cast as Ultraseven. Christopher Sabat? Although we're probably a ways off from them having to worry about casting the Ultra Brothers outside Ace. I think the voice I'm least sure about is Matt Shipman as Z. It's like the performance is fine, he sounds solid, it just doesn't sound like Z to me. He doesn't have the youthful energy and pomposity that I expect from Z after Tasuku Hatanaka's performance. He sounds like more of a straight-laced and serious Ultra than I remember Z being, though maybe that's just because it's the first episode. Though a part of me thinks they should've switched the voices around between Haruki and Z. I'm curious who is voicing Kuriyama and Kaburagi/Celebro. |
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