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First of all, definitely DO NOT do the Cho Den-O trilogy yet!! It all released after Decade, and while I'm sure that wouldn't bother you; the third one very inexplicably has a LOT to do with Decade. Best to leave that until after Decade, I feel!
In any case... I'm just happy about Wataru being larger than Otoya :lol |
Since you just opened the Kiva figurative, I feel compelled to share a meme concerning it, in anticipation of reviving old features for the Decade thread.
Learning “X got a figuart before Kiva” the easy weeeeeiiiii! Because the Souchaku Henshin figure for Kiva was deemed too good to surpass, the Figuarts line refused to make a figure of Kiva for 10 years. This led to jokes about how many minor characters (like Nadeshiko or Sangou), secondary characters from Kiva itself (such as Dark Kiva) and other non-Rider related people (like Michael Jackson) we’re getting figuarts, but one of the main Riders wasn’t. Though I don’t know for sure why they finally released one (maybe because of how rare the old one had become?) |
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A) The Souchaku Henshin figure being 'good' was their reason for not doing one at the time-- in SHF's early days there really was little difference in quality between the two lines. In fact in many cases I'd say the SH figures looked better compared to early SHF counterparts... but really, once they got past like 2011 or 2012 the SHF line's quality had far surpassed SH's, and they could have done one any time. I guess they just figured doing Blade or Hibiki was a bigger priority? B) There was a pretty good reason for making Kiva at the specific point they did -- he was the final of the 20 Heisei Riders not yet made... and Zi-O had just started airing. They made a pretty big deal out of his reveal at the time as an anniversary celebration; alongside re-issues for about half of the other Heisei Rider SHFs. His original run even came with a Ridewatch Stand! |
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Okay, so, I think what I'll do during the break is Final Countdown and maybe some weirder crap (stage show, anime, I don't know), then do the Den-O/Decade movie during Decade, then Cho Den-O post-Decade. I think? Quote:
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Oh the Den-O Final Stage is definitely something interesting to take a look at.
Admittedly i only did decide to pay attention to the actual Final Stage portion because TripleS went beyond the call of duty to include the entirety of the cast talk before the Final Stage segment. |
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Bubble era Otoya shenanigans The cafe master and Jiro fanboying out on Onyanko club The cafe master and Shima's never-ending bodyfat battles Them suits! SUPERNOVA Double Kiva Rider moments both 80s and 2000s IXAcise Nago's brief period of descent and his blue 753 shirt Masao CONS Occasional Inoue shenanigans we love to hate Still no Kiva V-Cinema starring Masao and his Super Friends Real talk I do love the IXA suit during the 80s in all its prototype-y imperfection. It has a certain charm to it with the limitations that make the battles all the more challenging. And the save mode visor looks cool. |
Okay, just a last bit of falling action now to wrap up my music picks for Kiva. I've ended up covering so many songs from the show I figure I might as well knock a few more off the list to leave off on. So first up today is a song that represents 1986 and 2008 all at once, as long as we're talking strictly about Ixa, Inherited-System.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3q71nfugkM This has actually come up in the thread already, but I didn't talk about it then, and considering how many songs I've shared from the album named after it (released on the same day as Destiny, as an Ixa-centric counterpart), it'd be a shame to leave it hanging. The appeal of this one is pretty straightforward. I mean, it's Yuri and Otoya and Megumi and Nago singing together in one song about the power that connects them all in the fight against darkness. It's pretty cool! Each duo gets their own verse and everything and it's overall just an upbeat and fun song. But when it comes to being upbeat, it still loses out to the final song I'm sharing for Kiva, No matter who You are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFqjd1GMCw Before Re-Union came along, this was the last song on the last TETRA-FANG album, and it feels like it was meant to be a send-off in its own way. Kiva was a show that placed a not-insignificant amount of emphasis on people overcoming personal flaws, centered on a guy who was a mess of frequently crippling self-doubt, so what better way to demonstrate that this is the end than by having a song where Wataru is singing directly to you, the listener, all about not letting those negative thoughts get to you? This is another one I've mostly ignored until this thread, but it's an extremely sweet, reassuring song that touches on a lot of the show's major themes. If you're a fan of Kiva who really connected with its story, I have to imagine a motivational jam where Wataru literally tells you he'll be there for you is a pretty awesome thing to have. ...Or, wait, should I not be speaking hypothetically there? You know, this reminds me that I once put my opinion on Kiva as follows: Quote:
Or, man, maybe it just is those songs? It's a pretty stock thing people say about Kiva – "it was bad, but that soundtrack was good" – and I guess I've never drawn that same distinct line myself? To me, the songs can only be as good as they are because they lean so heavily on the drama of the show's world and its characters, and perhaps because I went into Kiva having already listened to so much of this stuff so often, I'm always inclined to believe in what's in there, even as I occasionally take cheap shots at it. I said at the start of the thread I had a weird connection to Kiva, but thinking more about it, maybe's it not weird at all? Maybe it's actually the most appropriate possible thing in the world, for Kiva to be a Rider show I feel the strongest connection to – that I can most easily see the beauty in – whenever I can hear the music coming from it. At any rate, it was fun having the excuse to talk about all that music thanks to you, Die. I'm pretty sure you like this show, by the way? You seem a little wrapped up in trying to precisely define it all at the moment, but I've been watching you talk about Kiva for two months, and it sure as heck wasn't with the tone of someone who only kind of cares. The flaws are merely another part of what makes it what it is. If you're not in a binary Like/Dislike place with it, maybe you don't need to be in a strict Good/Bad place, either? And you know, I *do* recall you saying this about your very first Inoue show: Quote:
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