[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure I want to live in a world where Geiz is the moral arbiter and absolute ruler (or whatever) of the whole of civilization. That kid's got a ton of weird psychological and emotional issues! If someone as sweet as Sougo could eventually become a genocidal despot, I can't imagine how bad things could get with a starting point of Geiz.

W̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶l̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶q̶u̶i̶r̶k̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶r̶a̶z̶y̶,̶ ̶f̶i̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶e̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶r̶o̶u̶b̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶u̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶e̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶l̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶?̶. Otherwise, this seems to be a good idea for Geiz to take a look at the future where he wins tbh, to take a look of his mirror regarding his animosity towards Sougo, albeit now they're comrades or just really closer than before. But further talk about this would be spoiler, other than Geiz Revive now being teased more.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 20 - ?FINAL ANSWER 2040?

There?s stuff in it I liked. The idea of abandoning the conflicting ideologies of Geiz Vs Sougo for something that synthesizes the two into a form of, like, Aggressive Caring is a pretty great repudiation of the ways Wozez are trying to dictate the terms of success. I liked that Mondo never has a tearful I Forgive You Dad moment, since his dad (doing some terrific Hideaki Anno cosplay) never once earns it. That guy was screwed up before Mondo came along, and their lack of a relationship doesn?t need to be a drag on Mondo?s happiness. It?s a refreshingly mature attempt at catharsis, where you can?t change the past, but you can make sure your future isn?t anchored to it.

I guess I'd agree too that the resolution doesn't put the father on the pedestal, just because he's the parent. It was about Tamotsu making up a bit, not by absolving him from his mistakes that he had done in the past, but about slightly improving the strained relationship by having him reminded about why he left his family for his research. It's a second chance for him (not Mondo) as in Geiz Revive's timeline he died without achieving anything, but now Mondo's watch moving had him changing his family fate. He had some comparison to said Geiz as well, both were fated to die having accomplished nothing worth noting with their lives, but offered a chance to get the future they were obsessed with through a costly deal, Ora for Another Quiz and White Woz for Geiz.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

But everything with Sougo and Geiz and Woz and Hat Woz still feels too nebulous to care about: a philosophical struggle that no one can directly articulate, and a physical struggle that?s stamped Not This Episode. (It doesn?t help that Tsukuyomi is given basically nothing to do in this story, playing Time Mom to two teenagers who can?t seem to get along. She acts as a sounding board in two identical scenes! And that?s it!) The tone of everything is rich and foreboding, but the details never quite cohere into an addressable menace.

Actually this displays that Tsukuyomi had better judgment of the main duo than they themselves at each other (though it'd be Mom-ish for the part of how both of them value her opinion). Geiz hesitates between taking Mondo's power to defeat Another Quiz and letting him reunite with his father (I guess this also highlights Geiz's development himself that he grows out of his black and white mentality not only to Sougo but also to Another Riders), thus he asks her what'd Sougo do in his position of which he got her answer of Sougo prioritizing Mondo's feelings, thus he got a thoughtful expression for a moment. Though he covers up agreeing with her answer by telling her that they need to fight (so still some tsundere aspect, not admitting Sougo is right), this is then used as Geiz and Sougo's plan later with Geiz giving Mondo time to confront his father and prevent Ora from interfering by rushing straight at them to punch Zi-O instead, allowing Quiz to have his chance to escape.

Sougo asking Tsukuyomi which gets him the answer of blindly rushing at Mondo as someone too straightforward also lets him figure that out when Geiz punched him that it's their plan to solve the Mondos' problem, instead of the miscommunication of Sougo being confused why he attacked him, he's usually too straightforward to make that simple mistake. Then Sougo furthers buy them time by stalling White Woz while beating Another Quiz to draw out answers for Mondo's questions.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

It?s hard to maintain a feeling of inevitability over the long term, and we?re four episodes into Hat Woz?z machinations with very little to show for it, narratively. It seems bad, but everything else about this story is a pretty standard Team Zi-O adventure. No one on Team Zi-O?s side is doing much to solve or eliminate the threat of Hat Woz, or even confirm that he is a threat. He?s more forceful in this story, as far as openly manipulating Geiz to get what he wants, but no one?s like He Has To Be Stopped. Even his villainous move at the end of creating the Quiz Miridewatch, thereby going against Geiz and Sougo's wishes, doesn?t really cause any problems?

White Woz has some defiance in his plan that Geiz now won't stop Mondo as for above, so while he'd change history, now the chance of him becoming Geiz Revive is thinner, as what White Woz wants him to be. The fight between Zi-O and White Woz, it also makes use of W Watch which'd mean the Heisei Generations event is canon.