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TokuNation watches Kamen Rider Decade
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09-20-2021, 03:05 PM
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DreadBringer
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
MRWILLIAMGRAHAM:
One of my favorite parts of Decade is seeing where all the past suits pop up.
and I love how Tsukasa almost immediately uses the powers from the past episode
sometimes to hilarious effect as we saw in this arc
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
He's a collector, and he loves playing with his new toys.
Yeah, we'll for sure talk about the Den-O action in this episode, but I was really thrilled with how the story used suits and powers in
non
-hilarious ways this time. There's a real sense of tactics in the fights this time, something I don't remember being a big deal since maybe the Kiva episodes? The fights here are more of a chess match, where Tsukasa and Kaitou have to adjust their game plans to account for new variables. That's... I don't think that's an
all the time
Kamen Rider thing, so I like calling attention to it when it's prominent.
Though this type of discussion isn't favorable, this is secretly a mistake for a Decade being a tribute to past serieses, Faiz Axel was something that goes on a speed of sound, while Clock Up is something on speed of light (though Diend didn't use Psyga for super speed, where in the movie he can outrun Faiz Axel). While using 'comparable' arsenal that you currently have to counter identical opponent is a good idea at paper (of which I'd admit this too, the "adjust their game plans"), consistency should be taken into account too. For Kuuga Pegasus against invisible enemy, that'd remind me of Tendou's very first Kabuto fight where he reflects laser beams everywhere to catch a speedy enemy, but at first I thought it wasn't that flashy, but this talk reaffirms the scene's meaning of it having heightened senses, thanks. Psyga and Ixa here actually talks.. now I wonder what's going on in the Riders Diend summoned, especially for the destroyed Riotroopers.
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Kamen Rider Die
Same thing with T
sus
kasa as a ZECT member.
Don't know if this is a typo or intentional. Either way new nickname for Tsukasa other than
Dick
eido.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
It's just Souji and Mayu, and the beats are super similar. ZECT feels identical, and making the Souji/Mayu story so central to the narrative feels almost claustrophobic. This might as well just be a clip show of Kabuto ideas. It's not some weird thing like BOARD in the Blade episodes, or setting the Faiz episodes in a high school. Literally the only interesting twist is keeping the grandmother around, but otherwise? It felt... yeah, I'm gonna stick with "unimaginative".
So there's 2 contrasting complaints here about Kabuto tribute being 'unimaginative' to feature mostly similar beats from a part in Kabuto (Tendou/Hiyori), but it's not actually faithful to the series due to a different message conveyed here. If Tsukasa's a stand-in for Tendou, yeah he could've been used to enforce the message of not measuring yourself to others, which is obviously using Tsukasa as the unbeatable benchmark, as Tsukasa too is a hypercompetent braggart, except at photography. Probably making him a recipe where Mayu and her grandmother tries it and that they find it too delicious and cannot replicate it. But still Mayu is a contrast to Hiyori too, as while Hiyori is closed-off and gloomy, Mayu is a livelier character, being ecstatic to have herself got photographed, or checking out the results. Though probably including obaa-chan isn't the best idea, admittedly I'd like for them to try involving her onscreen (Kabuto's grandmother stuff seems to possess cold detached traits too, where Tendou does have some speeches that degrade friendship or about social darwinism). The part also sort of had (Toshiki) Inoue's typical message of "you are you" delivered by Souji to Mayu. For Natsumi... she did kinda expose the fake Tsukasa who's a Worm in disguise using her tickling.
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KAMEN RIDER DIE:
I'm sure that, much like the Blade guy didn't want to write the Blade tribute episodes, Yonemura didn't want to write these Kabuto ones (some fill-in guy handled them), but, man! Maybe he should've given some notes on what Kabuto's supposed to (the)be(e) like! ZECT, nailed it. There Are A Brother And A Sister, bingo. Even Tsukasa gets at the vague shape of Tendou (without mimicking Tendou's confidence, which is such a huge part of that character that I can't ever see too much similarity between them). But it really doesn't feel that much like Kabuto to me.
Well true for confidence Tsukasa more easily loses his cool compared to Tendou, but Tsukasa is highly arrogant like Tendou. There's also both of them being aggressive to cops to save the day (in ep. 4 of Kabuto and ep. 3 of Decade), breaking several laws. The Twokasas stuff is great yeah, but that's what can happen with the Worms having imitation powers, despite Worms getting criticism due to their lack of information of who they are. Like you said below, you'd want for the Worms to copy more of the original casts? Yeah that'd have potential to be used for many genres other than comedy too. The Den-O one... I'd wish for the gag to have Decade winning in a weird way... the villains not beating the shit out of Decade, but have them got distracted so they're easy target for other Riders... or actually for Tsukasa to think fast and take advantage of this, attack as those speedy fighters are standing still.
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Kamen Rider Die
MRWILLIAMGRAHAM:
yea there's also not much going on for Worm Souji
Do you think this arc could've used 100% more Sasword ?
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
The backstory for this dude's dilemma is sort of handwaved. He's stuck in Clock Up for... reasons. Part of me thought it was going to be psychological, where him losing Mayu's trust kept him from being able to go home, but then she wants him to come home at the end and he still ends up back in Clock Up? It's literally just Reasons, and that's all we get.
Also, yes, WHERE WERE JIIYA AND TSURUGI
GO TO A.R. FRANCE AND GET THEM
It's just so weird to me that this story latched onto the Tendou/Hiyori part of the narrative, when there's honestly not a ton of it in Kabuto The Series? The movie, sure, to my chagrin. But the series lost Hiyori for a huge chunk of time, and I never felt like that side of the story ever really recovered. Plenty of good parts besides that, but the bond between those two characters definitely diminished for me.
Nah, there weren't Godai, Ichijou, etc. in Kuuga arc, there weren't Megumi, Nago, etc. in Kiva arc, there weren't Kido, Akiyama, Kitaoka, etc. in Ryuki arc, there weren't Kenzaki, Tachibana, Hajime, etc. in Blade arc, there weren't Takumi, Mari, Kitazaki, etc. in Faiz arc, there were only Shouichi/Ryo/Hikawa chimera, etc. in Agito. Only Den-O had returning cast! So no original cast for Kabuto either!! For Worm Souji... there were no Dark Kabuto either.
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