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10-22-2021, 10:35 AM
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DreadBringer
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Been focusing on important personal matter lately, and the next one you review are the movies... (haven't found the place for Net Movie yet), which is harder to find time to watch e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶2̶x̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶.̶
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KAMEN RIDER DECADE: ALL RIDERS VS DAI-SHOCKER
A lot of it is in how it tries to really examine what it means to go on a journey. It’s there in Sayo’s feelings of abandonment, in Tsukikage’s attempts to replace Tsukasa, in Dai-Shocker’s ambivalence about Tsukasa’s return to power. We’ve had a whole series about the optimism of a fresh start, or the endless possibilities of the next step along the path. We’ve watched Tsukasa become more heroic as he meets more heroes, and seen him bond with the people who are helping him along the way. But to go on a journey, you have to
leave
somewhere. Tsukasa had a home, had a family, had responsibilities, and he left them behind. In his story (if you exclude the part where he was, uh,
exterminating Riders
), this is a bold, courageous step closer to his destiny. It’s adventure; it’s self-determination; it’s everything this series has been preaching since the first episode. But from Sayo’s perspective, it’s just more selfishness from a terminally selfish man. She’s watched Tsukasa care more about his own needs than those of his family for… I mean, basically
ever
. Every flashback shows Tsukasa as someone who is wrapped up in himself as a Main Character, to the detriment of anyone else’s experience.
What I liked about the resolution of this story is that, rather than placing all the blame on Tsukasa for abandoning his sister, it places equal blame between them. Tsukasa was sort of an asshole to neglect his sister after their parents died (because OF COURSE THEIR PARENTS DIED) and go on his grand Main Character adventure, but Sayo sort of let herself be relegated to a supporting role in Tsukasa’s story, instead of starring in her own. It’s an interesting take on the idea of abandonment, where needing people in your life should never stop you or them from pursuing their dreams. People leave, and that can be sad, but it’s also part of life. You should hope for the best for them. You should also use that change to keep living your life, and keep traveling on your own journey. It’s a refreshingly nuanced take on support and self-sufficiency, and it’s a pretty natural story to tell near the end of Decade.
I actually wonder what'd be your reaction against Sayo if she didn't go off the deep end from the abandonment, if it's probably going to be more negative or such due to "not as realistic" or such. For the equal blame between them, it's a good reminder (not that everyone would get it though, so it's also from what you said) that, one party being blameless doesn't mean the others have no blame. Sayo like I said, did go off the deep end of helping Tsukikage's schemes a bit, before relenting at the end. Some would just pin the blame as a whole to the one treating the people badly, while treating the one getting mistreated as innocent no matter what, as if they can do any bad things with an excuse of bad past. A̶l̶b̶e̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶T̶s̶u̶k̶a̶s̶a̶,̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶p̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶ ̶m̶o̶v̶i̶e̶ ̶e̶x̶c̶l̶u̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶l̶e̶s̶s̶.̶ So I guess Tsukasa is less of a good big brother compared to Tendou... albeit I still wonder what does Tsukasa think of Sayo while he's going on the other worlds. You admit that Tsukasa is an asshole for neglecting his sister, not excusing that he's neglecting her for her own sake or such like protecting the world like what Natsumi and Onodera suggested to Sayo (or you'd use 'asshole' here to describe him? Don't you think asshole means malicious)? Otherwise, Sayo has Natsumi's fashion choice of wearing high socks with less-covering footwear.
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It abandons its storytelling hook -- every Rider battles to see which one is the strongest -- almost immediately. It’s an incredibly bleak story. It invents a villainous background for its main character that potentially negates a series worth of character growth and heroism. It raises the stakes on its story by breaking its characters apart, and then doesn’t really do the work of fixing them. A lot of the story’s emotional weight is conveyed through a brand-new relationship. Most of the thematic resolution comes across as contradictory and ill-explained. W’s appearance is ham-fisted.
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But this movie really doesn’t seem to understand how much of a swing it is to make Tsukasa the once and future head of Dai-Shocker. The biggest mistake this movie makes dramatically is that it doesn’t create much space between Amnesia Tsukasa and Dai-Shocker Tsukasa. There should be more of a sense that Tsukasa’s journeys have fundamentally changed him, but I don’t feel like we got that here. He flips on Natsumi and Onodera with a smirk, and then expects Natsumi to take him back when Dai-Shocker kicks him out. (It’s nice that, in a movie that is working so hard to dot i’s and cross t’s, Shadow Moon gives us a total shrug of Kamen Riders Were Always A Red Herring when it comes time to explain what’s going on with the imminent destruction of all of the worlds.
Thanks for nothing!
) There’s a little bit of cover for this with the appearance of New Riderman (Gackt!), where Tsukasa is chided for giving up instead of working to fix his mistakes, but it all feels too minor for what we’ve learned. This isn’t a situation where Tsukasa yelled at his friends, or where he trusted the wrong person;
Tsukasa was the head of an interdimensional crime syndicate that nearly eradicated Kamen Riders on its path to total domination
. I don’t know that a Mea Culpa really settles things! Feels a little lacking!
Tsukasa's journey and its effects on him also can be inconsistent in the past like him learning a lesson at the end, and then forgetting it at the start of the episode and then learn again, repeat. But I guess even if Tsukasa had amnesia, doesn't mean that he had his personality changing though? Dai-Shocker Tsukasa is in line with his personality of wanting to prevent the world of being destroyed, something he has been doing all over the series. Though I'd say it's unknown what has been Tsukasa doing in his tenure before being overthrown, but despite you saying that Tsukasa overcome his darker impulse throughout the series, the movie had Tsukasa going on his most dark impulse just yet, he's seemingly content of being a well-intentioned extremist if it's meant to keep the world from destruction, by instead dominating it of course (one of stock villain goals, and some would also prevent the world of being destroyed... even by working with heroes or not committing certain crimes, as there are no world to rule if it's destroyed). Again I don't know what actions he had done as the leader, but it reaffirms my view of Tsukasa that he'd save the world, but wouldn't care about its problems or such other than 'people live'.... even if it means world domination, which'd only cover one out of a wide range of good morals out there (this one though, it's just extremist), though this can be a real OOC as well to Tsukasa depending on the person, as jerk =/= villainous. I won't think that being a head of an interdimensional crime syndicate is that bad if the head would restructure the organization into something that is doing good though.
Otherwise, I'd probably want to see Tsukasa as Dai-Shocker head more compared to the fights before, which probably may also discuss the Rider Fight more. What I feel here is similar to the Ryuki tribute, I wonder who becomes the Riders who participated in the Rider Fight, and I think Tsukasa "massacring Riders" is similar to the died Riders in the Ryuki tribute. I think you're used to how W appears here, it's similar to for example, Genm's appearence at the end of Ghost or Build's appearence at the end of Ex-Aid. For Natsumi finally temporarily ditching Tsukasa for good reason (she can be agitated with Tsukasa's antics.. but wasn't outright hate just reprimanding)... I wonder if Kaitou partnering with her and calling her Natsumelon is the root of fans doing the same, or that it's what fanbase does but integrated in canon. There's also shown what'd Natsumi do in an impending apocalypse, but with people running around instead of her alone like at the beginning of series, where she'd help a stranger who fell... before Narutaki finally gets her to listen.
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All of that Narrative and Thematic stuff aside (because who really cares about that in a movie with so many superhero suits), this film was a treat. The score was dynamic and engaging. The fights were generally fun, with some clever twists. The special guest stars were very cool. (Shouichi! Momotaros, of course! KickHopper and Ouja, immediately rejecting Kaitou’s request for aid and trying to kill the heroes!) A lot of the staging and direction in the first half was smart in how it enforced the isolation of Sayo and the uneasiness of Tsukasa. The movie just looked and sounded great, for the duration.
I can’t claim that this was a great story, or that it was well-told. I fully expect a bunch of people in this thread to cite this film as a low-point for Rider movies. For me, it really connected. I liked how it used one last minute before the finale to show the unintended consequences for someone’s decision to find themself, and to argue for the need to take that journey of self-discovery anyway. I dug it.
I don't know if those Riders they ask for help are real version of their original selves (in Decade many Riders have alternate selves like Onodera most prominently), albeit they have the original character's catchphrases. But dunno why Ouja would refuse, he's a blood knight and he should like the opportunity for more battles, and I think it'd be a clever, albeit pragmatic way for the cast to use that to help the cause. The fights though, there are dope parts I admit like the solution against Kingdark being using Kamen Rider J but also Decade being the one turned into Final Form Ride as giant Decade Complete, but as usual, the series really IMO spat on Kuuga with having Onodera going Rising Ultimate, but was only a punching bag against Shadow Moon. A little nitpick but I'd wish that the all Rider kicks actually feature the actual aesthetics such as Ryuki's Dragreder, just like, y'know, the very beginning of Decade, with multiple Rider assistants joining the fight like Contract Monsters.
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