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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kiva
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06-12-2021, 12:19 PM
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This was my first time seeing this film. I skipped most of the movies when I went through these shows the first time, but I'd gone back and watched all of them eventually except this one, because Kiva. I really regret it because I had a lot of fun with this. It is a really, really weird movie, but still a lot of fun.
I think what I liked most is that it didn't go the Faiz/Kabuto path of an AU or the Ryuki/Blade style of similar but noticeably divergent continuity. There are some small incongruities here, but if you ignore them then this feels like a proper Kiva story. I've always preferred the shows themselves to the films and the films that feel like the setting and characters don't even match the show are always the hardest for me to get into.
Overall, though, I thought the film was kind of a mess. I watched the director's cut, so it was a full 90 minutes and it felt really... well, not "disjointed," per se, but it felt like the movie had trouble remembering what it was doing a lot of the time. There are so many places where it starts going off in some new direction then suddenly remembers something it was supposed to be doing and throws it back in. Violin Girl is easily the most obvious example of this, as she's constantly popping in and out of the story.
My favorite part of the film was probably getting to see the '86 and '08 casts together. Wataru and Otoya had a very different dynamic from Megumi and Yuri, but it was still fun seeing the children get to actually spend time with their parents and the ways that they bounced off of each other. There were some other nice touches, though, like seeing Otoya and Yuri run into the cafe owner again.
The film could be really funny, too. I'm really surprised by how much I laughed. My favorite gag was probably Otoya leaving prison and the film suddenly looking all retro as he tries to play it off as a serious drama, but there were so many other good moments.
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The other big thing is that, like, what the hell is even the deal with Takoto? His character only makes the slightest amount of sense if you watched the third Net-Movie, where it’s revealed that Takoto was friends with Nago back when Nago was an overly-emotional crybaby. Because in the movie? There’s no
details
about this dude at all. He shows up, Nago shrinks like he’s trying to will himself out of Takoto’s eyeline, and we’re never told why.
And this is the big adversary for IXA!
There’s nothing to key into for their rivalry or their friendship or any of it. Beyond that, he’s a guy that has a belt for some reason, and betrays them for some reason, and it’s all sort of shrugged at. (I believe the movie’s answers to both of these mysteries are “another group made a Kiva belt somehow”, like that’s just an easy thing to reproduce; and “that’s just the type of guy Takoto is”, which, what? He’s
well-known
for betraying people to immortal monsters who want to subjugate humanity? I thought he was the ace agent for a big monster-hunting agency? I feel like Most Likely To Betray Humanity should be a disqualifying trait!) He’s a guy that has almost zero character, zero appreciable motivation, and dies in a fight that never really made any sense.
My absolute favorite part of this is that Takoto is set up as this big personal rival for Nago and then Nago just fucking disappears for the next hour of the movie.
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(Well… there’s also Otoya hanging out with his son in 2008, but I’d rather not wade into that plot at all if I can avoid it. It’s a
minefield
. I didn’t think it was nearly as problematic as describing it would make it sound, but describing it makes it sound intensely problematic, so no thanks. There is some maybe genuine bonding in it, though.)
When you travel forwards in time to hang out with your adult son you have to assert dominance. Law of the time jungle.
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