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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Den-O
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04-12-2021, 01:09 PM
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I don't think praising Shouko's character is being intolerant to another character? Please don't read too much into what I'm saying! If I'm paying a compliment to one character or performer, I am not insulting another one by omission. Something can be good without something else being bad!
Well ok, maybe I was reading too much into it, it was refering to "the type of chemistry that I think the show wrongly assumes that Yuuto and Airi have" part of that post, unless of course, the idea of improvement isn't "turn Airi into someone like Shouko".
BTW, well, again, how about the long rambling in ep. 44 I wrote? Especially the part of Ryotaro's view that I'd like to discuss.
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I mean of course, Ryotaro acting as a spiteful jerk for just a mere moment and have him being in the wrong is a journey. But the thing is, from audience talk, I don't like that, I know that people here including me rightfully complained about Ryotaro acting OOC at the end of previous episode before, but people usually tolerate the screw-ups (Ryotaro did) that is caused by someone acting jerk or being a hardass, but if a screw-up is created by ordinary flaw (which is what is more expected for Ryotaro), like lack of confidence, then that one will usually earn more hatred from audience, even correlating that flaw with kindness to view that as weakness.
I still stand by the previous poor decision of Ryotaro's attempt to be heroic, that being stuck on Plat Form, but I still see Ryotaro's act here as the continuation of Ryotaro getting stronger plot (Momo said it himself to not get cocky just because of being stronger), that Ryotaro wants to fight threats alone, not sacrificing himself, and I'd like if Ryotaro makes use of Liner Form to do that (I think the sword is only radio, not Imagins taking part on battle and risking their live by possessing).
Also, about Ryotaro not seeing heroes inside other people, I don't think that it had correlations of others being fragile (remember, it's Ryotaro the loser who is fragile), but as Ryotaro is the most morally upright, I guess Ryotaro sets up too high of a standard of heroism, like those who are grey shouldn't partake the way the morally white like Ryotaro can (well, Ryotaro's moral does take the good part of the adventure like breaking the "rule" of protecting the flow of time by helping the contract holder in the past), which, well, personally I would also say that grey part of someone can't be overlooked and make them lumped together with ideal toku hero like Ryotaro and that they should improve themselves, but doesn't mean that they can't be any use in saving the day even if like, they only cover the fighting monsters part, I think instead of others being fragile, it's more about Ryotaro thinking in terms of black-and-white; even the slightest gray to him is immediately treated as black at the earliest opportunity. Also, the thing about Zeronos, it's not merely fighting for the right reasons, but there are other aspects as the worldview, methods, etc. Zeronos is pragmatic hero, that he can stoop into dirty tactics to get the job done, though Ryotaro should also let himself partake, which is by trusting him enough.
Momotaros, as this episode summed up, still a violent misfit that wants to take part in battle due to enjoying fighting too, so never seeing him as a hero (well, Momotaros is an anti-hero for fighting against evil but having several negative qualities, and that is still a subset of hero albeit morally grey) is brought up in the episode too. As previously has shown, Momo cares about Ryotaro a lot after a rough start, and I would see him as less concerned about the other Imagins compared to Ryotaro (I still see relationships with less conflict as the closer one, albeit of course there are exceptions, for this one, well Momo's main concern is Ryotaro, and he can see other Imagins as competition for taking care of Ryotaro, and he had almost no conflict with Ryotaro after Momo fully cares for him), but about being heroic, what they should do (except for Kin, but as you said he resorts to self-sacrifice at any opportunity, he really needs to learn about Ryotaro's outburst here about not sacrificing) is care for more than only what's close to them, like only between the Taros Imagins group, or Airi for Ryutaros. They should care for people less related to them, like the strangers, as heroes are about taking care of them.
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