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TokuNation watches Kamen Rider Decade
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09-20-2021, 09:06 AM
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Kamen Rider Die
MRWILLIAMGRAHAM:
Agh this didn't really work for me
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
I don't really love this story's message. I never thought of Kabuto as a show About Family, even though that's 100% what this story was about. (I thought of it more as a show about not measuring yourself against other people, and being okay with your limitations.) So this story sort of trying to say Family Will Always Be There For You in a way that also plays as Family Demands You Not Change... wasn't crazy about that!
The idea that a franchise about a transforming hero would do a story where change is a bad thing... what?!
It feels like there's supposed to be a moral in there somewhere, but they didn't want to repeat the moral from the World of Faiz and just say it's okay to be a Worm. There's merit to maintaining a status quo. But yeah, if a recipe can be improved, then I really don't see the harm in trying to make something better. Maybe it should be more specific, like Mayu's human heart shouldn't change. The oden was just a really bad metaphor. Adding a new ingredient to a recipe isn't necessarily the same as becoming a bad person. It depends on the ingredients.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
The idea that the only powers Decade got from the Den-Liner crew were
poses and catchphrases
, it KILLED ME.
The villains being baffled and then furious at Decade's non-sequiturs! So they kick the shit out of him!
MRWILLIAMGRAHAM:
Poor Tsukasa had no idea it was going to blow up in his face
Which is unusual, since Tsukasa knows pretty much everything about his Rider System and whatever world he's in, so it's very embarrassing for him that the knowledge that escapes him is Den-O, causing him to look like a fool in front of everybody when he's trying to show off.
One more joke other than that and the Worm Tsukasa is at the end, where Tsukasa cleverly scams Kaito with pepper by passing it off as Legendary Spice! What did you think of that?
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MRWILLIAMGRAHAM:
Do you think this arc could've used 100% more Sasword ?
Of course!
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
The backstory for this dude's dilemma is sort of handwaved. He's stuck in Clock Up for... reasons. Part of me thought it was going to be psychological, where him losing Mayu's trust kept him from being able to go home, but then she wants him to come home at the end and he still ends up back in Clock Up? It's literally just Reasons, and that's all we get.
Also, yes, WHERE WERE JIIYA AND TSURUGI
GO TO A.R. FRANCE AND GET THEM
Headcanon time. Maybe there was a bug (haha) in Kabuto's Rider System, like this world's version of the Red Shoes System, giving the advantage of an infinite Clock Up with the disadvantage of always being stuck in a lonely Clock Up. Either way, it sucks to be (no surname confirmed, but the restaurant is called Tendo so maybe he's another Tendo) Souji in this world. He's also the only AU Rider who didn't need Tsukasa's mentoring, since he's already walking the path of heaven, but doesn't have any of Tendo's aloof traits, rather it's his unfortunate situation that forces him to be distant.
I think he was actually photobombing Tsukasa's picture at the end instead of the usual illusion that appears in his pictures. It seems like the kind of thing a man who walks the path of heaven would do. It's a very bittersweet (haha) ending, especially with the orchestral Journey Through The Decade.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
It's just so weird to me that this story latched onto the Tendou/Hiyori part of the narrative, when there's honestly not a ton of it in Kabuto The Series? The movie, sure, to my chagrin. But the series lost Hiyori for a huge chunk of time, and I never felt like that side of the story ever really recovered. Plenty of good parts besides that, but the bond between those two characters definitely diminished for me.
I'd like to point out that Mayu could be a parallel to Jyuka, in addition to Hiyori, due to her connection to Grandmother. I think it's a smart choice to make Tendo's most plot-relevant sister and his most familiar sister the same person for Souji's sister.
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Enchilada645
Ah yes Kabuto, the final Rider that won me on aesthetics alone with the intense action and cool fight scenes. There's something really cool about the super speed fights that instantly drew me.
Same here. This arc was definitely a big factor in my decision to watch Kabuto after. The high speed action, futuristic suits and a climactic boss fight were all very appealing for me to watch. I would even say that this was my favorite AU World that Decade has passed through.
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Enchilada645
So Kabuto felt like the perfect watch even if the story was sort of all over the place. Also shout out to them refusing to use the Faiz Kamen Ride until this two parter so they could do the speed up counter to Clock Up with Faiz Axel.
For sure, Decade Kamen Riding in to Faiz and using Axel was very appropriate here in Kamen Rider Stormdrain and totally compensates for its absence in the World of Agito! And yeah, Kabuto's story had some Clock Ups and Clock Overs that collectively made the show 12/19 in my Heisei Rider Ranking.
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Enchilada645
Also there's a particular line here that struck me in the gut because I wasn't expecting it to show up. I'll explain when we get in further since well spoilers, but yeah.
Oh, you mean
that
line?
Yeah, that definitely stands out a lot more when you know what's coming.
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