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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kiva
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05-06-2021, 11:01 PM
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Kamen Rider Die
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
You see, Kiva is every bit as much about music as Hibiki was. Arguably
more
, even?
So, here's maybe a good place to talk about this.
My biggest regret from the Hibiki thread was putting in song lyrics. Wish I'd saved it for a show like this one.
See, I went into Hibiki expecting a show About Music. The main Rider's a drummer, the other Riders all play musical instruments, there's that opening scene, Asumu dreams of joining his school's band... it's going to be a show About Music! I should lean into that!
And then, after just a few episodes, it started to become clear that Hibiki was going to be a show that was About Camping more than it was ever going to be About Music. Music was an affectation, a part of the experience that became less and less relevant as the show went on. There was an episode where three Oni needed to combine their finishes to destroy a monster, and I'm like Oh They're Playing As A Band, This Is Going To Be About Them Achieving Harmony, and then the show just layers their three finishers on top of each other in the most discordant way possible. Even when the music metaphor was teed up for them, they ignored it. It was a show About Dads, not a show About Music.
So having this show be the one that's About Music (
and
probably About Dads! Hilariously!)... definitely feel like I should've saved the music stuff for this one. Not a huge surprise that this one's going to be more about music, honestly. That's an Inoue thing, expression through art.
But, yeah. Goddamn it. Wish I hadn't assumed that Hibiki was going to be About Music.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sunred
Regarding the 1980s section of Kiva, the 1980s was for Japan a special time called the Bubble Era, where everyone had beaucoup money and economic abundance was at an all-time high. It is a fascinating decade cause they had so much money they bought the freakin' Empire State Building. THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING.
That actually gets brought up in the first episode, the Bubble Era. Interested to see if that'll factor into the storytelling? Kamen Rider shows (that I've seen) don't really do a lot with finances over the long-term. Like, Kouta needs to get a job for a minute in Gaim, but it's not a huge deal for the entire series. Blade was the only show that really spent more than a story reminding us that the heroes were pretty broke. Well, Shinji owed Ren a few billion yen by the end of Ryuki, if that counts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
AkibaSilver
Plus, you know, thematic, Waturu's sealing himself away from humanity inside this bat-themed killing suit, it's all a metaphor.
Yeah, this show (being an Inoue joint) don't hurt for metaphors to unpack. Good point!
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