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Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger News and Rumors Disscussion
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12-03-2020, 06:33 PM
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KaiserBlue
See that's my biggest gripe, they made the lupinrangers cool and fun, and made the patrangers boring and unlikable in comparison. It really sucks that they couldn't balance the two teams and that they made last minute changes to favor one over the other. I think these issues along with the plot really helped kill toy sales for pato. I can still find tons of pato in the market, but no as much lupin.
I've never understood this line of argument. Patren #1 was absolutely as likeable and well-developed as Lupin Red -- he had almost as many focus-episodes -- and the two were ideal foils for each other. Patren #3 was infinitely more well-realized than Lupin Yellow, who was basically just the "cute young girl" archetype (I understand a lot of dude fans have a boner for Lupin Yellow's actress, which is super gross as she was 17 when the show was filmed, but that does not make her an interesting character). I'll grant you that Patren #2 was far less compelling than Lupin Blue, but having a weak comic-relief green ranger is almost expected for any Sentai team.
The reason Lupato's toy sales were low is because those toys were really fucking boring and had no relationship to the teams' overarching motifs. (I don't care how many padlock dials you stick on them as an afterthought, jets make NO SENSE for a team of Phantom Thieves.) The reason the plot petered out is because the villains had no concrete agenda or interesting motivation to drive the story forward. All of Lupato's problems can be traced back to those two elements far better than they can this supposed problem of character imbalance.
Somehow this notion got stuck in the ear of fandom, and no matter how much distance we get from the original broadcast, people can't seem to disabuse themselves of this unfounded critique. There are plenty of things to criticize Lupato for, but character development was arguably the show's greatest strength.
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Sh Ranger
They even went through the trouble of making a suit for PatKaizer Splash and it never got used. That's just sad.
Those suits were pretty modular, so it couldn't have been that hard to create a PatKaizer Splash variant. It's not like they had to build any new pieces -- all they had to do was swap in the arm module that they used for LupinKaizer Splash Magic.
Bringing the conversation back to Zenkaiger -- because this is a Zenkaiger thread, afterall -- I think the modular nature of mecha suits is extremely conducive to the half & half swap-out gimmick that's been rumored. Also, they're going to have to build a bunch of mechs anyway -- why would it be any more of a challenge to base them on past mechs as opposed to, like, beetles or whatever?
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