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09-15-2016, 02:47 PM | #13571 |
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I was actually surprised by how much it was still the same but it really does lose a lot of the flavor. The upside is that the last episode before the switch in writers (among other things), 29, is a great done-in-one episode all about Asumu. It really felt like the show's way of saying farewell before everything goes to crap.
I actually held out for about 6 or 7 episodes afterwards before in the middle of the one I was watching the thought just sort of hit me that "wow, this show is kind of terrible now". Considering how positive I am about Kamen Rider, that's kind of a big deal. I think there are redeeming qualities to the retool but it has the fatal flaw of not being Hibiki. And the final battle is an even bigger cop out than not getting to see Ultimate Kuuga use his Rider Kick. For the record, I actually kinda appreciate Kuuga's final two episodes more in hindsight and plan a Kuuga rewatch. Also, if you're familiar at all with Heisei Kamen Rider, you can totally tell Toshiki Inoue took over the writing at the exact moment Kiriya becomes a character in the show. Started a Black RX rewatch this week. I remember after seeing Black and Black RX the first time round, I somehow ended up liking Black RX more. Earlier this year I rewatched Black on account of getting hold of it in HD from the Bluray releases, and I adored everything about it. So I thought I'd see the sequel again... I'm not liking it as much. On one level it's nice to see things get better for Kotaro after everything he went through, but also jarring. |
09-15-2016, 04:13 PM | #13572 |
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So I'm where Ryuki gets Survive and the show is getting really good (not like it wasn't before)! The humor and drama are top-notch and none of it is out of place. I have a theory Odin is planning to have the other Riders kill each other and then murder the last one to get the wish and save Yui.
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09-15-2016, 06:06 PM | #13573 |
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Never a bad thing to hear someone getting into Ryuki. I always really liked the Ore Journal guys. They're very wacky and yet never clash with the tone of the rest of the show. It's just a simple trick of having them be removed from a lot of the plot but it really works wonders.
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09-15-2016, 07:33 PM | #13574 |
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Love Ryuki. That, Blade and Gaim are tops in my book (Hibiki will likely join this group); the shows that are aimed more toward a "young adult" audience. I don't want to say they're more "realistic" than other Rider series (they're not) but, I guess they don't take the viewer to be incapable of dealing with messed up, unpleasant, complicated storylines.
What really works for me with Ryuki is that the world it takes place in is only a few shades off from our own - tangible, unlike Gaim or Ghost (or the whacko anime reality EX-Aid seems poised to give us) which may as well take place on different planets altogether. Speaking of... watching the first episode of Ghost yesterday (I respect the Fish, so thought I'd give'er another go), I realized my problem with it is that it's a true "kids" show. Recognizing that and watching it as a "kiddie drama", it's actually a lot better - you just have to bear with the corniness, cutesy-ness and exposition-o-rama-ness. It's still got some great ideas and the suits are great. Will I watch the entire thing? Eventually, I'm sure, but not as a priority.
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09-15-2016, 08:05 PM | #13575 |
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But it became clear eventually I wasn't giving it enough credit. Ghost's style may be a bit off, but it's still got the same heart as ever. It can get surprisingly heavy for how cutesy it looks at times. It's still very much Kamen Rider at its core. I imagine Ex-Aid will be the same way.
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09-15-2016, 09:42 PM | #13576 |
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But it became clear eventually I wasn't giving it enough credit. Ghost's style may be a bit off, but it's still got the same heart as ever. It can get surprisingly heavy for how cutesy it looks at times. It's still very much Kamen Rider at its core. I imagine Ex-Aid will be the same way.
I think they're trying this with Amazons but season one was too hermetically sealed within the world of the Nozama Peston Service to really feel as "open" as Ryuki or Hibiki. I'm hoping that season two gets into the civilian Amazons world a bit more - good way to explore the global refugee crisis, now that I think of it.
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09-15-2016, 09:48 PM | #13577 |
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What really works for me with Ryuki is that the world it takes place in is only a few shades off from our own - tangible, unlike Gaim or Ghost (or the whacko anime reality EX-Aid seems poised to give us) which may as well take place on different planets altogether. I love this about the Heisei era too. Something I love about certain shows is that the tone it uses can create such a palpable feeling or atmosphere. Attack on Titan and Gundam Unicorn being some examples. I think Faiz, despite all of its problems, has a sort of atmosphere to it unlike any other Rider show. I think it has to do with just it focusing more on the fucked up parts of soceity, or at least in that world. Last edited by Powerman293; 09-15-2016 at 09:52 PM.. |
09-15-2016, 10:25 PM | #13578 |
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Faiz was REALLY about the character drama. That's always what made me love it so much. The conflicts in it were on a more personal level instead of the simple "oh hey a monster" stuff in other shows. "Soap-opera" is how I describe the early Heisei shows in general but Faiz really owns that title.
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09-15-2016, 10:59 PM | #13579 |
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So has Ghost become a show worth watching once it is over or should I just forget about giving it a second chance?
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09-15-2016, 11:19 PM | #13580 |
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