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02-20-2021, 08:10 PM | #71 |
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It's some really fluid story construction, along with everything else about it.
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02-21-2021, 03:12 AM | #72 |
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oh hey it's my first Rider series
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02-21-2021, 03:13 AM | #73 |
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I think reducing the story to B plot actually works in Den-O's favor. People generally don't renown Den-O for its story. There is a story, it's there and the show revolves around it. But most people come to Den-O for the Imagins, the comedy, the climaxes, the Ore Sanjous and the Ore No Hissatsu Waza Part Two!s, you know? Den-O is that kind of show. All the cool stuff happens in the action and the character interactions. Maybe that's why Den-O can easily fit in to crossovers since the content is kind of irrelevant as long as Imagins can do their thing.
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02-21-2021, 01:23 PM | #74 |
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Seems like a pretty good one to start with!
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02-21-2021, 01:27 PM | #75 |
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I know I know but I still want to talk about the topic and convey the info. Those words there, I've seen somewhere too but not as jokes (I read it in an Ex-Aid episode comment section).
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 3: “OUTLAW MOMOTARO”
I mean, not a ton going on in it otherwise? The stuff with Airi continues to be the same sort of distraction the cafe scenes were for most of Ryuki (and the DenLiner already has a meal car! You don’t need two restaurant sets in one show!), where I’m not sure it’s really telling us stuff we don’t already know about Ryotaro. The weird inclusion of the Airimirers… I mean, I hope it’s going somewhere, because right now I find it pretty dull. Quote:
The big guest-star for the week (Sid from Gaim!) is another neat look-in at the concept of partnerships, where it’s less about mutual respect than it is about leveraging someone else’s skills for your benefit. Yamagoshi is a hilariously underachieving scumbag, and it’s smart to follow up the tragedy of Tetsuo with an Imagin host who is maybe less sympathetic. (Although, yeah, there’s that band photo I’m sure we’ll come back to in the second part.) It’s some nice variety in the types of stories you can tell with imagination monsters from the end of time who grant wishes.
Yamagoshi’s arc in this one, though… again, not a lot to it? It’s funny, and it goes down smooth, but it’s mostly just here to highlight how badly things are going between our ostensible heroes. Quote:
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THE BAGGAGE CAR
-Hana’s so good in this one. Another actor would maybe come off as nagging, where she’s being too cruel to Momotaros, but he both totally deserves it (there is no sense of personal space when it comes to him and Ryotaro) and never seems too offended by her anger. The shot of Momotaros getting caught by Hana, going “The nosy girl!", and then immediately getting punched in the face… fantastic. The beat of her realizing she actually just punched Ryotaro’s face is a super funny button. Of all the relationships in this show so far, the one I’m most here for is Hana/Momotaros. -The sound design changes up with this episode, as MomoRyotaros, the Momotaro-possessed form of Ryotaro, drops the Momotaros VA from a lot of the performance in favor of Ryotaro’s actor just changing his voice. I massively prefer it. I didn’t mind it the other way (which still gets used for fight scenes and the like), but I love the confidence of the show trusting in the actor’s performance to sell the changing circumstances. -There’s another dude on the DenLiner! He would not like a coffee to go! I’m assuming it’s the same guy we saw briefly at the end of Episode 2, but either way: certainly more to come on that thread. -I 1000% do not care about the Airimirers. At least there’s only two of them now, hovering around a disinterested-but-polite Airi. Maybe in another couple episodes there’ll be zero! -The Owner scene is great, if only for the adventure-genre message of Please Don’t Sweat The Details Right Now. It’s asking the audience to put character ahead of plot, and that’s completely my taste in Kamen Rider. I appreciate his outlook on storytelling!
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02-21-2021, 01:47 PM | #76 |
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I didn't get the joke, so thanks for the explainer!
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02-21-2021, 02:01 PM | #77 |
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I just want to come in here and make everyone feel uncomfortable by stating that Momo/Hana is my true Den-o ship.
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02-21-2021, 02:04 PM | #78 |
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They are definitely the They Hate Each Other A Little Too Much couple right now, so I can see it. They're the pairing I find most interesting now, at the very least. I don't think you're weird for shipping them!
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02-21-2021, 02:19 PM | #79 |
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Thank you for enabling me! haha!
Those two characters are my favourites in the show. I have mixed feelings overall about the show as a whole, but I can't bring myself to be mean as it has some wonderful and fun character moments, and in every episode it feels like the cast are giving it one hundred and ten per cent. I'm super glad you're getting the chance to sit down and watch this one! |
02-21-2021, 02:33 PM | #80 |
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Those two characters are my favourites in the show. I have mixed feelings overall about the show as a whole, but I can't bring myself to be mean as it has some wonderful and fun character moments, and in every episode it feels like the cast are giving it one hundred and ten per cent.
I'm super glad you're getting the chance to sit down and watch this one! The Phase 1 Heisei stuff... there's been a lot in there I've loved (and Faiz is probably in my Top 3 all-time), but it's all stuff I've had to force myself to watch. Or, not force maybe, but... they're series that have aesthetics and tones that are not why I started watching Kamen Rider. Approaching those pre-W shows was more about my own curiosity, or my need to feel like I'm prepared for Zi-O. (Anniversary shows aren't really that much fun unless you get the references!) I've across-the-board found things to like in them, but it's sometimes taken work. Den-O, though? Man, this type of show is why I started watching Kamen Rider. It's so funny, and generous, and kinetic, and colorful, and loopy, and and and. I like the challenge of trying to dig into a difficult show, to find the core of it that works, but it's also nice to just watch something fun that's on your wavelength. Other shows have sometimes felt like I'm in a debate with the showrunner, sparring over tone and theme and plot; with Den-O, it's like hanging out with a friend and cracking each other up.
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