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11-14-2020, 09:07 AM | #5761 |
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I'm pretty certain Ghost's first two HBVs were in 2015... thank you on OOO!
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11-14-2020, 11:50 AM | #5762 |
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According to a generally more helpful wiki with information about Kamen Rider, Ghost's Hyper Battle Videos were released on:
- November 28, 2015 for the first half of the Ikkyu thing - December 26, 2015 for the second - October 1, 2016 for the surprisingly awesome post-series one. (I think technically those dates for the last two are just for the issues of Televi-Kun you would have to like, mail a form in for from there or something, but you probably shouldn't sweat it that much.)
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11-15-2020, 03:30 AM | #5763 |
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I heard that Ghost suffered from executive meddling, but can someone point out exactly what are those meddlings? Other than budget issues (I think) since apparently they had to divide between Ghost and Amazons.
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11-15-2020, 03:54 AM | #5764 |
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That never happened! That's just people ragging on Ghost and repeated it enough until it started to sound like fact.
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11-15-2020, 09:04 AM | #5765 |
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Yah, despite years of asking "So what kind of executive meddling?", no-one can ever provide me anything concrete. I'm even doubtful of the so-called budget issues - why would Toei split money from their big seasonal Rider show to their experimental Amazon Prime to the detriment of the one they were expecting to make money from? It's like saying Kabuto must have has budget issues because they were throwing money at Kamen Rider The First.
I think people like to say "Well Ghost had people messing with it, that's why it's bad!" as a kind of proof they can hold up and act like that factaully makes it worse than other Rider series, rather than it being a show they didn't like because it was just some natural writing element they didn't vibe with. And there's nothing wrong with liking or not liking Ghost, (inb4 this board's resident Ghost supporter comes up and kills me, giving me 99 days to find the 15 Eyecons to come back to life), but just admit you don't like Ghost because of the choices it made, not because of some imaginary version that might have existed if not for that evil Toei.
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11-15-2020, 09:12 AM | #5766 |
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Only thing set in stone was that Fukuda left in the middle of Ghost's run, right?
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11-15-2020, 09:24 AM | #5767 |
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That being said... You can just as well say that all Rider seasons, especially as of late, suffer from executive meddling, what with the ever-growing deluge of merchandise introduced into the shows.
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11-15-2020, 09:33 AM | #5768 |
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If anything I think late-game executive meddling started with Ex-Aid, from just how much we know of things being changed late in development (Humagears were never meant to be a big part of Zero-One after the first arc, Woz was meant to be Zi-O's final boss, Kuroto and Kiriya came back due to high popularity), and how, like, none of Ex-Aid's lategame decisions match up with what was established early on. The only things I can recall happening to that extent before are Ankh not being OOO's final boss, and of course everything that happened with Hibiki.
Ghost, though? Not a trace. In particular that thing about "budget was moved to Amazons" is I think something that was stated as true... for the Figuarts, nothing to do with the show.
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11-15-2020, 09:59 AM | #5769 |
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It wouldn't surprise me if there was some degree of the writer changing bits of the plot as audience reception happens throughout the entire series (I rememebr seeing someone comment that Skyrider was effectively retrofitted into an anniversary celebration halfway through), but everyone always acts like Ghost's entire plot was derailed becaus... reasons? Like, don't get me wrong, there are certainly places in Ghost's plot where you can scratch your head and ask 'Why?', but nowhere do I feel like it was because some higher up at Toei wrenched control from them and told them they had to include something.
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11-15-2020, 10:59 AM | #5770 |
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Actually I have something to say about Ghost. Since Episode 39 of the show in the credits they list something called "chief producer" that was never thing prior to Ghost but ever since this episode all Kamen Rider shows have this position.
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