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02-27-2012, 01:10 PM | #21 |
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I'm sorry but no. You do not learn Japanese watching fansubs. You learn it by taking classes. Any real translator or person that has studied Japanese or any other language would say the same. You can not learn a language by watching fansubs. And again, like the other person, you miss the point. It doesn't matter what you perfer hearing. Subs are meant to allow a person to enjoy a show that does not speak the shows original language. Leaving random phrases and words in only caters to the people that think Japanese is a special thing that can not be changed, or to people that like the sound of Japanese words. To that I say that's great. But don't think that's how subs should really be.
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02-27-2012, 01:17 PM | #22 |
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That's great that you think but please don't be rude to others because they have a different opinion on the subject. If someone feels they are learning or picking up the language that way (which I do as well) then they are. End of story. We all learn in different ways. Subs can be whatever you want them to be, that's why many different groups do it many different ways. They don't have to be anything but a preference. It doesn't matter what you hear but to some it does matter what we read and this isn't aimed at any one group or another either
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02-27-2012, 01:18 PM | #23 |
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No, you're being rude and very stern. So if that's the way you want to be, I'll just be rude back.
We can like subs whatever way we want. You have your preferences, we have ours. Get over it, move on, and shut up. Trying to "correct" people for their preferences is about as rude as you can get. An opinion can in no way be a fact, by the way. It is your opinion that you cannot learn that way. Last edited by Electric Turahk; 02-27-2012 at 01:21 PM.. |
02-27-2012, 01:29 PM | #24 |
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I prefer TV_Nihon, but I certainly understand why some people don't.
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02-27-2012, 01:34 PM | #25 |
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No, you're being rude and very stern. So if that's the way you want to be, I'll just be rude back.
We can like subs whatever way we want. You have your preferences, we have ours. Get over it, move on, and shut up. Trying to "correct" people for their preferences is about as rude as you can get. An opinion can in no way be a fact, by the way. It is your opinion that you cannot learn that way.
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02-27-2012, 01:35 PM | #26 |
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You're fighting over a non-issue. Seriously, it's pointless.
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02-27-2012, 01:38 PM | #27 |
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As I have said about 4 times now, people can like what ever they want. I will not back down about the "learning a language from fansubs" thing though. IMO, it's insulting to those that take many years learning a language and those that teach the languages. It is not an opinion. It is fact. Ask translation professionals, language teachers, etc.
This exactly. Stop making an issue out of a non-issue.
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02-27-2012, 03:45 PM | #28 |
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That's fine. You like the sound of the Japanese language. That isn't the point of a fansub or a pro sub. A sub is meant to allow people that DO NOT know the original language the show is in, to understand it in their own language. Not leave random words untranslated just because the subbers or sub fans like the sound of Japanese words. How can you have a full understanding of a sub unless it's fully translated? Not many people know what tachi and other words mean in English. A sub watcher should not have to pause the show to find out what some random Japanese word means.
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02-27-2012, 03:50 PM | #29 |
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THANK YOU!! been waiting for 51..thanks again..
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02-27-2012, 04:50 PM | #30 |
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I'm sorry but no. You do not learn Japanese watching fansubs. You learn it by taking classes. Any real translator or person that has studied Japanese or any other language would say the same. You can not learn a language by watching fansubs. And again, like the other person, you miss the point. It doesn't matter what you perfer hearing. Subs are meant to allow a person to enjoy a show that does not speak the shows original language. Leaving random phrases and words in only caters to the people that think Japanese is a special thing that can not be changed, or to people that like the sound of Japanese words. To that I say that's great. But don't think that's how subs should really be.
Aside from that, I do completely understand your point. Although the different views on the matter is what resulted in the many many different fansub groups and their styles of subtitles. Yes, the way they SHOULD be subbed is how you describe, but not everyone is completely in the dark on Japanese now, even some people who've learned Japanese will still watch with subtitles because their understanding is not extensive. So the partially untranslated stuff works perfectly fine. This is one of those things that's best left alone. Watch what you like, and ignore the rest. I have the same outlook on the console wars. Everything now is personal preference. There is the way things SHOULD be done and then the way people LIKE it to be done. If no one liked it, groups like TVN wouldn't exist. Edit: I totally missed a bunch of posts when I posted this, so if there are any redundancies, that is why.
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