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02-26-2022, 12:05 PM | #1 |
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Ikki & Vice must learn how to undo the Rolling VStamp- which may help unlock the full potential of the Demons Driver.
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02-27-2022, 05:44 AM | #2 |
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Karizaki Sr. has a really nice voice...
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02-27-2022, 10:01 AM | #3 |
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Dear lord, I hadn't seen this one before the preview for next week, what an amazing suit. Veil / Bael looks fantastic. I really like how the rhinoceros beetle basically crawls over the right shoulder so that the horn is on the side of the helmet, not the front.
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02-27-2022, 02:38 PM | #4 |
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You know, Revice is really making me appreciate how talented Nobuhiro Mouri actually is as a writer. I remember reading one of the weekly production note thingies on the website back during Saber, when they were hyping up Super Hero Senki, pointing out that he was particularly suited to a big crossover like that because his whole thing is basically playing with other people's characters to begin with, and ever since reading that, I've started to take notice of how good he is about matching his style to someone else's. I don't think anyone would suspect this is an episode by a different writer than usual if you didn't tell them. In other words, this whole paragraph is just a long-winded way of me saying this episode didn't skip a beat.
There's a lot of good stuff in here, between hints of oncoming major lore reveals, shady characters with ambiguous motivations (George's actor puts in a very compelling performance especially), and of course, the continued emphasis on how much trust Vice and Ikki have built up with one another. I really liked Vice bluntly declaring how much he cares about Ikki in that conversation with Sakura. It's on the nose in a way that fits his character, and again, you can go back and see how true that's been from early on. One of the little things I liked a lot about the initial Kagerou arc is that, even though I recall people saying the show was focusing so much on Daiji that Vice was just some underdeveloped background character (how the tables have turned), there was a strong emphasis on how much he was looking out for Ikki in situations where Ikki himself was struggling with that for one reason or another. Basically doting on Ikki, in a way that went beyond just looking out for his own safety by extension. So this whole episode where Vice is giving Karizaki the stink eye when he wants to do his latest mad scientist experiment with them, it definitely feels like a natural extension of everything that's happened so far. Only while Vice's concern was often ignored by Ikki back in those early episodes, he's grown to understand well enough that Vice's worries are his worries too, and in a rather literal sense, at that. It makes me like Jack Revice even more that we've already seen it be a form for Ikki too? Again, it just feels perfect thematically how they're using it. Ikki and Vice are a strange duo, so it's fitting that the rules for what's nominally a pretty straightforward form end up being equally strange. Olteca's also still the worst, and that's still the best! (Somebody please take that dang Gifu Stamp away from him though!)
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02-28-2022, 04:04 AM | #5 |
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Holy cow, that makes the suit a million times more awesome in my eyes!
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03-01-2022, 03:16 PM | #6 |
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Revice continues to wow, with another rock solid episode! I feel like the show has come an awfully long way since the beginning, where I liked a lot of the show conceptually, but it just didn't form a cohesive whole for me. Heck, even Ikki, who I was complaining about pretty recently, has been a delight and really interesting in his dymanic with Vice. I particularly liked Ikki being so willing to confide with Vice and get him on-board with the experiment, combined with Vice's genuine love for Ikki. The two of them have quite the dynamic compared to the beginning! George once again gets to show off that moral ambiguity that makes his character so fascinating, we had some really slick coordinated fights involving Sakura and Ikki/Vice, and the next episode looks like it will be answering quite a few things viewers have been wondering about for a while. Count me excited for next week!
I also finished watching Revice: The Mystery by the way. I thought it was a ton of fun, between the mystery elements and playful crossover bits. Almost like an ideal Rider spinoff to me.
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03-01-2022, 03:47 PM | #7 |
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Oh, previously watched it as Ayaka Imoto got tested positive for Coronavirus. Get well soon but, would this be Sakura's turn to disappear for a while among the family like Yukimi?
Previously, George was the one to held a petty grudge against Vice due to him mocking his Jackal Genome, and Vice got shafted several times for that. Now, the feud between them (if George also still isn't over it) is mutual. A demon that switched places with humans isn't a good idea as shown here with Ikki starving; thus Vice will die if Ikki dies from that. The reveal is both comedic (mundane problem) but also carries some stakes. This is another scenario of Vice having to help Ikki to save himself, but here, it's now clear Vice genuinely cares about Ikki rather than doing it only out of necessity (including on how he'd fight for good before), or being like Kagerou before to save someone for his own benefit, shown in him understandably distrusting George out of fear of what can happen to Ikki if he misplaced his trust like Hiromi. And of course, Vice immediately conveys his concern right away here and though he quite delays the problem with his mistrust, the others can deal with it better like Ikki's new contract. Other than his clear concern for Ikki though, this shows an opposite scenario of characters in KR who'd keep going along with the manipulatior's (villainous or morally dubious characters) schemes, willingly turning themselves into their "pawns" as it'd still gave them advantages such as power ups to help others, such as Kouta in Gaim (against Sagara or such), where actually as shown here, it wouldn't really create a better outcome if they dodged the shady figure and their schemes, Vice is getting nowhere from that as Sakura pointed out, it'd be too late, for those who think characters who went along with the manipulators as idiots. As Ikki stated here, there are no other ways than to believe in shady figure like George as the hard fact is, he's the only path to fix their problems as a brilliant scientist (with another Karizaki being the one to be able to make Rolling ViStamp, as George deduced about his father surviving). Indeed it further shows on how scientists are almost automatic MVP (to the groups they're in) regardless of their morals (or just roles, like various mad scientists), as they can generally create almost anything, and that it'd be unfair to be hard on other 'normal' characters who didn't contribute nearly as much due to them not being scientists, as Ikki summed up that George's the main reason they can do everything they did until now, from helping others to getting to know each other, despite Ikki too understandably condemning George for his own reasons. Other than that, it happened! Olteca and George! 2 of the characters I'd want for the series to meet, and it didn't disappoint. I guess other than (from what I think), some similarity between George and Aguilera before at the earlier part of the series (at Aguilera's reign), there'd be also some similarity between those 2, as the geniuses of their respective faction (Fenix and Deadman) for starters, but other than that both are also cool-headed at dire situations (major difference between them is George normally acts eccentric and childish though), but are also cutthroat and sneaky, while displaying sinister demeanor at times (Olteca's much more severe though at this). It'd start with the 2 being on "physical" bout, though George held his own as a non-average scientist, Olteca managed to capture him (he can still teleport others...). Then it'd be testing both of their wits as the geniuses in their faction, with both being able to come to an agreement, and for rather similar reason in both wanting to see the power (Olteca)/scientific (George) potential of the Demons Driver and Rolling ViStamp respectively, even plotting to pit both of those Riders together by letting their location be told. This also further shows that George only cares about furthering his research, he'd have no qualms teaming up with the worst. Though turns out that even Olteca isn't Demons Driver, or as for now, Bael's first choice with it leaving the Driver, it shows that George did apparently improve the Driver, confirming Olteca's suspicion of George tricking him (and thus won't go through his schemes) wrong, George is really a bastard despite his earlier bath with Genta. At the end too George pulls a Kuroto, a highly sociopathic character with a god complex, by only boasting about his brilliance as Ikki and Vice switched position (or so was thought). Revice had some named characters that apparently served as the main villains (Deadman's higher ups) right-hand (wo)man, but all of them except the main trio are rather killed quickly after their appearence, be it Haitani, Kudo, Chameleon, Chigusa... and now Kanae too met her end. Of course bodycounts will happen more often and easier with Olteca's Giftarian schemes along with him becoming more and more heartless (figuratively, not literally like Genta). Kanae apparently felt overjoyed to become Olteca's sacrifice unlike Chigusa, as seen before in her enthusiasm to help Olteca out, or that it may show the side effect of someone being doctrinated on a cult to only reassure her decisions by joining the cult. This is done to serve Aguilera's minor role in this episode, that even evil has standards in her being appalled by Olteca's cutthroatness. This does show that Olteca is the worse one between the 2, but Aguilera's still a lesser evil as previously she also had no problem of stamping people, though not Giftarian schemes where it eats up the stamped victim. Tamaki just served as the comic relief again here (more overt), and he seemingly behaved civil with the others too such as attempting to return a customer's purse, but earning a rebuff from Sakura by entering the woman section. That'd be quite unreasonable response from her even if Tamaki is clumsy (as per the usual slapstick gag ._.), but then again it's only due to her Tamaki can still go on. Tamaki's main problem is his lack of social skills as usual, with his forced smile being creepy instead as Daiji chastised him of. This is just like when Julio infiltrated Sakura's dojo as Sakura and Hikaru talked about her family trips, his social problem didn't come from how he's a monster trying to infiltrate a human life, but from him being a withdrawn bullying victim, expected to be socially-awkward. And this further shows Daiji's professional and stern personality, the most serious among the Igarashis (also against the rowdy Vice in Happy Spa). Other than that Daiji's only shown dealing with Kagerou's influence, nothing more. Regarding Weekend, now Sakura has a new suspicion on Hikaru, with Tasuke apparently not being Hikaru's real dad. Being interrupted by George though, also for dad-related topics. More daddy issues! Sakura's all about standing up to Ikki here by contronting the Weekend leader, now full name revealed as Masumi Karizaki, who is set on helping Ikki too, as well as giving some "lesson" on Sakura to learn from the past, likely from his 'malfunctioning' plan that the Rolling ViStamp instead switched Vice and Ikki around. Based on the extent Masumi is going to take to help Ikki, by suppressing demons despite knowing how Ikki and Vice are buddies now, Masumi is shown to have a racism towards demons, no matter who they're (similar to characters like Mach towards all Roidmudes). Masumi isn't learning from the past the best way here, from how the original ViStamp purpose instead can turn the inner demons a nuisance or a threat, but Masumi goes too far on the extreme direction to "help Ikki" by eliminating Vice for good due to how he's a demon, which still malfunctioned as both Ikki and Vice share the same body now. Other than that, Sakura is paired with Vice in this episode, clashing in their approach to save Ikki, with Ikki as the mediator, as usual with Sakura being a harsh type (more than Daiji in this episode) when things don't go her way. Regarding Sakura against George, she helped him when a Giftarian attacked him, so that can give me a vibe that her harshly rebuffing George at the beginning was more of her irrational harsh reactions, despite that George is obnoxious as usual. And poor Lovekov though for falling while trying to catch up... luckily she seems to be able to survive falls (as a plushie) thus Jeanne won't be killed. In her and Ikki's team up against Olteca, Lovekov is 'stamped' by Jeanne in a bad way of it being jumped over for her Rider Kick, creating marks in her head. Other than that, there are other Jack Revice's abilities as shown by Ikki, using paint strokes to create elemental attacks, so Jack Revice is quite a versatile form.
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03-04-2022, 11:46 AM | #8 |
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Other than that, it happened! Olteca and George! 2 of the characters I'd want for the series to meet, and it didn't disappoint. I guess other than (from what I think), some similarity between George and Aguilera before at the earlier part of the series (at Aguilera's reign), there'd be also some similarity between those 2, as the geniuses of their respective faction (Fenix and Deadman) for starters, but other than that both are also cool-headed at dire situations (major difference between them is George normally acts eccentric and childish though), but are also cutthroat and sneaky, while displaying sinister demeanor at times (Olteca's much more severe though at this).
Now Olteca is left without a means of henshining and he generally seems insecure to the point where he feels like he needs to Gifstamp his most loyal follower just to prove how unfettered and superior he is to Aguilera. While George always seems more in control, no matter which side he's on, he finds a way to turn the outcome in his favor. Quote:
Masumi isn't learning from the past the best way here, from how the original ViStamp purpose instead can turn the inner demons a nuisance or a threat, but Masumi goes too far on the extreme direction to "help Ikki" by eliminating Vice for good due to how he's a demon, which still malfunctioned as both Ikki and Vice share the same body now.
Regarding Ikki's and Vice's changing situation, it reminds me of all the crazy stuff that happened to Tommy in Dino Thunder, getting encased in amber, stuck in his suit, turning invisible, before he finally returned to normal. Yeah, Jack Revice can use Shinkenger's Mojikara now, but instead of kanji, it's pictures like Bulk's hamburger Symbol Power. The black Rider has become a black mage.
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03-04-2022, 09:14 PM | #9 |
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Today, Ikki not only uses Kamina logic, but becomes Den-O.
Great conclusion to the Jack Revice Arc, albeit short. Lots to unravel in this season, from Papa Karizaki, who I figured was probably dead, but now he's leading Weekend, Demons' Demon leaves Olteca for a cooler Rider, and Papa-San's heart. I feel like for the dads, it's the same case, in which both are "dead" but due to some supernatural hijinks aren't dead. I'm really going to miss Jack Revice once Revice debuts, since this form has a fun dynamic, you can even tell the difference between Ikki and Vice's fighting styles through the form, which is a neat detail. But we're also going to get a new Rider next week, in the form of the "new Demons," Bael. But boy, if the producers didn't want Ikki and Vice to become Den-O then, it's extremely obvious now, and I'm going to miss when Vice was a Stand. Next Episode: Kaiba becomes a Kamen Rider, while Ikki takes a trip down memory lane. |
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