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01-16-2022, 09:10 AM | #11 |
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I have a feeling that Hiromi gets stamped with the Gifu stamp but instead of the demon eating him, Hiromi will eat the demon and now with a proper demon again inside him, can use the Demons driver without any more side effects.
Side effect of the demon eating is the recovery of his internal organs.
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01-16-2022, 09:38 AM | #12 |
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Will this be Hiromi's last dance next week?
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01-16-2022, 09:48 AM | #13 |
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whyyyy did they play LiveDevil there when a second wind for Volcano would have been perfect!!? The climax came about from the two leads coming together to master the new form, perfect occasion to bust out its theme song sang by their actors, it's just common sense!
Supremely nerdy nitpick aside, i liked the episode and the new form(s) have completely won me over. |
01-16-2022, 10:02 AM | #14 |
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Gotta admit Volcano is not my Favorite Form but this Episode man this episode make it memorable...
Its been Looong time that i give a shit to a Villain... the Julio stuff ia so good hell i even start worrying when Volcano beating Julio up with OP theme song because that usually wouldn't end well to Villain, and aqulera is really care for Julio that make me tear up I am rrally curious how Julio role for this on, i hope we can see his badass form again.. RIP julio's friend Now Hiromi dang i guess "the Deal" on demons driver is eating up your Vitality i am really curious for Hiromi now |
01-16-2022, 12:31 PM | #15 |
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Yeah this show is still really good. All that material with Julio really did not pull any punches, and he's a way more sympathetic character because of it. It's sort of a shame I don't want to take the time to try and analyze this stuff more in depth right now, because no quick thumbs up I can give this episode is doing justice to the complex mix of visceral emotions on display here.
It wasn't a bad episode for Ikki and Vice, either. Again, I really want these two to feel like an iconic, inseparable duo, and plots like this do a whole lot to get them there. Although as great as all the introspection is, I can't help but find it funny at the same time how every instance of Ikki potentially reevaluating his own actions has him defaulting back to his comfort zone because a literal personification of his own repressed irresponsibility and narcissism reassures him he's fine the way he is. Ikki really IS Japan's #1 egoist! ...But like, obviously that's a huge oversimplification of Vice's role in the series (which like lots of things in Revice is surprisingly multifaceted), and jokes aside, I do appreciate what the show has been doing having him as this sort of motivating force for his partner. Oh, and I just realized – they played LiveDevil so that the theme song would actually be in the episode somewhere, because after Ex-Aid, it seems Kamen Rider has just stopped feeling it's important to have a normal opening each week.
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01-16-2022, 01:54 PM | #16 |
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Wonder if Julio has the potential to be a rider himself?
I could imagine a rivalry between him and Live/Evil - wolf & bat, werewolf & vampire. Julio's Deadman form is now absorbed into Giff and its only a matter of time until he's revived! |
01-16-2022, 02:19 PM | #17 |
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The focus on Julio was great. I wouldn’t mind have him as a Rider to counter what Olteca is plotting. Also, Aguilera being on the bench for once is surprisingly a thing I liked. I don’t see these two being villains at the end of the series.
Olteca,there’s no redemption for him, he is a pure scumbag and I see him dying miserably at the hand of Giff or something like that. I liked Zero One a lot despite its shortcomings and I didn’t like Saber, but this ! This is a show I’m loving right now. |
01-16-2022, 06:44 PM | #18 |
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I mean with a wolf motif and all the sad boy/self destructive energy he's got Julio has decent Faiz energy, so I can totally see him becoming a broody rider. If he did I could totally see scenes of him helping others in a terrifying way, and of him bonding sadly with other people.
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01-17-2022, 07:21 AM | #19 |
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Man, I am super curious as to what's going to happen to Julio now. This mini arc for him has been great, and I definitely want to see more.
Ikki needs to change. The show has made a point to show that his actions may be causing more problems than he realizes. However, I already know the show isn't going there, since whenever he's hit by the reality that it was he who screwed up, he has a chit chat with Vice, gets a new power up, and stays the same. Ikki's current conundrum of saving people is one that I'm on his side for, but just the sheer fact that they, once again, went through the effort of going through this rigmarole for the 3rd time irks me. Anyway, still interested in seeing where things go next. Honestly, this show is kind of like Kabuto in a way. The fewer plots focusing on the titular character, the more interesting things get.
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01-17-2022, 10:25 AM | #20 |
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The Revice episode without the opening song... and it delivers even more bodycounts, and it gives the main Rider the most severe injuries yet, though otherwise focusing on Julio.
Now Olteca seems to have a potential turning into an irredeemable villain (he got similar contempt from the main hero as the likes of Redyue and Evolt), now he didn't only carry out his schemes like in first arc, but they emphasized his cruelty with his utter glee and satisfaction in killing humans for Giftarian as well as his psychological torture to Julio by killing Yosuke as they're in process of reconciling. Regarding Julio, seems that the blame isn't only on the traitor, but he himself has a share for not considering Yosuke's condition that, actually I'm wrong, he too was bullied. That's some good bait for them to make Julio say no to Yosuke's offer at first, thought as a rejection, but actually it's Julio blaming himself a bit. Yosuke's death here does raise points for Julio's sympathy, but there's still no redemption for him here (or he had some by asking for heroes' favor in rather civil manner, but pushed back by Olteca). In fact, it just escalates his threat, seen in him gaining much stronger Riot Form, as well as him rampaging in the city (he turns into Fenix' main attention). He does fight Olteca, but targeting evil person doesn't make you good, it'd be a case of evil vs evil. Riot Form has awesome showing here, back into Kuuga-like scale of nuclear-explosions? The trio are unlikely to get ever back together I guess, but Aguilera saving Julio shows that (other than Aguilera caring for him deep down) Olteca doesn't hold absolute power, despite Aguilera being played like a fiddle by Olteca before. Aguilera would still be a thorn on Olteca's side. Ikki and Vice have gotten along since ep. 13, but this episode takes their bond to a further level as Ikki not refers to Vice as aibou. More about Ikki is shown here as well with him being someone that has existential crisis, with his current action of taking care of others but himself being the means for him to look for himself. Would see later on how existential crisis being handled, but for Ikki apparently, going for more ethical solution is selfish due to his failure there compared to just resorting into killing Deadmans. This shows quite harsh truth that being more idealistic can be more difficult and costly, that Ikki likely can end the potential victims Olteca can create if he finished off the Deadmans. That doesn't mean he's selfish for that though, or that he should give up on it (of which there can be bad consequences on other parts), your morals or goodness aren't necessarily determined by the result (including villains that created birth of heroes, many in KR of which heroes' powers can originate from villain's), that sometimes it's just your incapability instead of selfishness. For him being 'selfish' due to him dragging Vice into danger, it's the one that is used to reaffirm their escalating partnership, with Vice now acting as Ikki's emotional support despite the rocky start, and for this one, there are no Vice "corrupting" Ikki to console him. Vice seems to have changed for the better this time, with Ikki's faith of him (piggybacking him) paid off. Ikki and Vice's fight and teamwork, despite the contradicting powers, is shown really well and it's one of the fight choreography in KR that impressed me. It shows a good use of ice and fire power, with Vice freezing Riot Form to hold him in place for Revi's punch. Another one I liked is Vice utilizing Revi's fire by creating ice sword handle to make a fire sword. Daiji's reaction of Ikki literally being burned with rage is just reprimanding Ikki for his behavior again. So this shows further that Daiji can feel under Ikki's shadow but doesn't hate him, all his "feuds" with Ikki are only about Ikki's bad habits. Despite showing sympathy to Aguilera, Sakura still holds some grudge to Tamaki, of which while understandable, still Aguilera had done more harm to her compared to Tamaki (albeit Tamaki was a double-crosser). Their fights on Julio's Riot Form, this kinda shafted Sakura a bit that Live did a bit better, when Jeanne's the one that is considered having biggest potential. I'd admit, George's portrayal here is mostly wholesome that he seems genuinely on good side here (still the more morally dubious type, but not evil). His suggestion for Ikki to save himself by not thinking about separating demon is done similarly to Daiji's suggestion, that it's not done to demean Ikki or his more idealistic approach, but out of concern. He also acts pretty much as a mentor to him by telling him about what's going on as well as guiding him on using the Volcano Rex, in a straightforward way. Albeit George has been mostly good to Ikki, like him allowing Ikki to keep the belt at first episode. The next episode will bring up more about Fenix in general it seems, with the setup of Hiromi being biologically 80 years old according to Mikoshiba Akemi, the female Fenix doctor. She seems to be someone no-nonsense and strict, but this is done for Hiromi's sake. Ironically, despite chastising Hiromi for his Rider activities, Akemi seems to be someone workaholic and pushing as well, with several energy drink bottles she drank. I guess probably it'd be revealed the consequences of Demons not unleashing Hiromi's inner demon. The director Hideo seems even more suspicious with him being enthusiastic to Giff's body. Quote:
I think Revice is becoming hands down, the best Reiwa rider show by far. One of the reasons is that The main rider actually has development and times feeling conflicted about his actions compared to Zero One and Saber, who I feel hardly changed in the course of the show.
I think Ikki's appeal to me is that he still can screw up even if he's nice, well-meaning, and not doing anything morally questionable. He shows that flaws aren't only toxic traits and that can cause problems (well dunno about Vice relation later) thus there are other things one should fix other than moral/actions, and he's not made to be an utter idiot to do that (usually it's how they can cause trouble despite their morals). Quote:
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The focus on Julio was great. I wouldn’t mind have him as a Rider to counter what Olteca is plotting. Also, Aguilera being on the bench for once is surprisingly a thing I liked. I don’t see these two being villains at the end of the series.
Olteca,there’s no redemption for him, he is a pure scumbag and I see him dying miserably at the hand of Giff or something like that.
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