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07-17-2018, 03:00 PM | #1891 |
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As fans get older, they tend to look back on the old material differently and come to different conclusions! One such idea as come to mind, but bare in mind that it is just a theory!
As everyone knows, Austin and Thuy and Walter left in Season 2 and their characters were written-out and replaced with the characters of Rocky, Adam, and Aisha. The direct-to-video, not-available-on-Netflix, Halloween Special "Lord Zedd's Monster Heads" is an over-dubbed episode (of questionable continuity) in which Zedd decides to hold his Halloween Party and spends the majority of the time reminiscing about past Monsters and past battles. The flashback's are as follows: Halloween Tommy trapped in the Dark Dimension with Dead Monsters, Knasty Knight, Eye Guy, Revived Monsters in the Theater, Terror Toad, Silverhorns, Serpentera destroys the Deserted Planet. Then they use the Wedding Reception footage for the Halloween Party. Throughout much of the flashbacks, Zedd and Squat provide disembodied commentary (due to the availability of their voice actors)! Here is where I believe things are symptomatic of what was happening behind the scenes! When they hit the Terror Toad recap, they go pretty much in a straight-line and don't speed through the whole confrontation. The Toad initially fought Yellow, Black, and Red, and anyone who knows the episode knows what happens to Trini and Zack, which is included in the recap before moving on. Of note, there is no Zedd or Squat commentary at all during the Toad recap (though I believe that Squat and the Terror Toad share the same voice actor)! Afterwards, they include Silverhorns, which is the first battle for the Yellow, Black, and Red replacements, and do include commentary from Zedd and Squat for that one! Would I be remiss in assuming that the use of footage, and how one battle of significance regarding those who left precedes the first battle of significance regarding those who replaced them, is meant to essentially spite the actors who departed!?! The more I think about it, the more I feel like they used a non-traditional special to essentially "middle finger" Austin, Thuy, and Walter! I'm not saying I'm right, but the timing and placement, in addition with the knowledge of how the battles originally occurred, makes the whole thing feel...suspicious! The "Monster Heads" Episode is likely only available, in recent years, on the MMPR Box Set Bonus Discs! It was included on the bonus discs for the first box! |
07-23-2018, 06:24 PM | #1892 |
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Just because Chip Lynn will work in Pr along with Hasbro, doesn't mean he will do the same thing in Saban brands.
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07-23-2018, 10:19 PM | #1893 |
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07-24-2018, 02:32 PM | #1894 |
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I feel for the Ninja Steel cast. They seem like really good people, they are really good people, fun and.. Yea. They were stick with a crap season built from a crap Sentai season and everyone's now pointing at the new shiny thing in Hasbro and Beast Morphers.
That being said I will now point at the new shiny thing and ask a question. Is anyone else here for a Cheeda Nick/Go-Buster Ace repaint turning it into Beast Wars Cheetor? Because I am here for that. |
07-24-2018, 03:50 PM | #1895 |
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I feel for the Ninja Steel cast. They seem like really good people, they are really good people, fun and.. Yea. They were stick with a crap season built from a crap Sentai season and everyone's now pointing at the new shiny thing in Hasbro and Beast Morphers.
That being said I will now point at the new shiny thing and ask a question. Is anyone else here for a Cheeda Nick/Go-Buster Ace repaint turning it into Beast Wars Cheetor? Because I am here for that. "Forever Red" feels like Star Trek DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations", but DS9 had more to offer which is why it isn't the only episode to get recognition! Wild Force had only so much to offer, and Ninja Steel was trying to follow Dino Charge and its success without shaking much up! It was an ill-timed business decision on the part of Hasbro and Saban because it does take away from Super Ninja Steel's latter half, which will only be remembered at this stage for the Anniversary components! But the ill-timing works on a real-world level as well, because I had just lost my grandmother when the news that Hasbro would make toys for Beast Morphers broke, which was a fun little distraction at the time because it gave me something else to think about! I would say that all we can do is try to give Super Ninja Steel whatever credit we can, because they did most of that BEFORE Beast Morphers and the switch to Hasbro! Respect what they did because this will truly be last blast for Saban's involvement, though Shattered Grid and Beyond the Grid are making bigger and bolder leaps and moving the franchise further along than we thought possible even 5 years ago! We honestly don't know how good the first true entry in the "Hasbro Era" will be, so we have let Super Ninja Steel do what it can as we bid farewell to Saban's involvement! JDF appeared at an Anime Festival in Bossier City, Louisiana just this past weekend, and made note of the fact that Saban did care for the franchise and did find Sentai on TV in a Japanese hotel room and tried to spread it and pitch it to the world! Say what you will about Saban's character and his politics, as well as JDF's, but I do believe that Frank was correct and that Saban, love him or hate him, ultimately succeeded! Super Ninja Steel and the Comics are Saban's swan song with the franchise! Let's not forget that! P.S.: Transformers crossover with Beast Morphers! Something like this: http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2018/04/...ion-announced/ P.P.S.: I kinda think the news in that link might be a gag, but don't quote me on that either! Last edited by TokuKnight89; 07-24-2018 at 03:53 PM.. |
07-24-2018, 05:16 PM | #1896 |
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Ultimately, Ninja Steel is now Wild Force in that it is a "periphery season", in that it was the FIRST change for franchise ownership and changed stations in the middle of its run in anticipation of what was to come, even though Beast Morphers will remain on Nick! While Wild Force had some interesting parts when I was younger, does anyone care for the show other than "Forever Red", the 10th Anniversary Episode! Granted, this is a difficult question given the real-world events since that season ended, but outside of that and 10 Red Rangers joining together to violate continuity and destroy a giant mechanical dragon of destruction with a Deus ex Machina that never meant much to anyone, does anyone really feel for Wild Force like they used to?
"Forever Red" feels like Star Trek DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations", but DS9 had more to offer which is why it isn't the only episode to get recognition! Wild Force had only so much to offer, and Ninja Steel was trying to follow Dino Charge and its success without shaking much up! It was an ill-timed business decision on the part of Hasbro and Saban because it does take away from Super Ninja Steel's latter half, which will only be remembered at this stage for the Anniversary components! But the ill-timing works on a real-world level as well, because I had just lost my grandmother when the news that Hasbro would make toys for Beast Morphers broke, which was a fun little distraction at the time because it gave me something else to think about! I would say that all we can do is try to give Super Ninja Steel whatever credit we can, because they did most of that BEFORE Beast Morphers and the switch to Hasbro! Respect what they did because this will truly be last blast for Saban's involvement, though Shattered Grid and Beyond the Grid are making bigger and bolder leaps and moving the franchise further along than we thought possible even 5 years ago! We honestly don't know how good the first true entry in the "Hasbro Era" will be, so we have let Super Ninja Steel do what it can as we bid farewell to Saban's involvement! JDF appeared at an Anime Festival in Bossier City, Louisiana just this past weekend, and made note of the fact that Saban did care for the franchise and did find Sentai on TV in a Japanese hotel room and tried to spread it and pitch it to the world! Say what you will about Saban's character and his politics, as well as JDF's, but I do believe that Frank was correct and that Saban, love him or hate him, ultimately succeeded! Super Ninja Steel and the Comics are Saban's swan song with the franchise! Let's not forget that! P.S.: Transformers crossover with Beast Morphers! Something like this: http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2018/04/...ion-announced/ P.P.S.: I kinda think the news in that link might be a gag, but don't quote me on that either! For the rest of what you wrote, I actually remember wild force for more than the anniversary. I personally consider that episode it's own thing away from the season. Wild force was really good imo. My younger brother and I watched it religiously. The zenaku arc was one of the best evil Ranger stories told. The zords are beautiful still to this day. The standard roll call was really awesome. The final suitless roll call still gives me the chills. True the general public may have forgotten wild force but not everyone did. Heck I have the theme on my driving Playlist. Every time I hold my wife's flip phone, I almost always mentally call out "wild access". I am still trying to give ninja steel a chance. It being the final neo Saban Era season, a sudarso being in it, and the anniversary are what's keeping me involved enough. My son actually enjoys it so watching with him makes me feel happy towards the show even with all its faults. I mean come on. I have to put up with the horrific nick app to watch it so I better enjoy it. Lol.
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07-24-2018, 05:17 PM | #1897 |
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I wish we had a kids network channel like Fox kids could broadcast PR decently.
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07-24-2018, 06:34 PM | #1898 |
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I believe certain specials could be shown exclusively on Netflix, but I don't want it to be the sole carrier of the franchise because it limits the audience! |
07-24-2018, 06:46 PM | #1899 |
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Too late. I quoted you. Lol. I believe it was a guy as it states Bandai of America in the article.
For the rest of what you wrote, I actually remember wild force for more than the anniversary. I personally consider that episode it's own thing away from the season. Wild force was really good imo. My younger brother and I watched it religiously. The zenaku arc was one of the best evil Ranger stories told. The zords are beautiful still to this day. The standard roll call was really awesome. The final suitless roll call still gives me the chills. True the general public may have forgotten wild force but not everyone did. Heck I have the theme on my driving Playlist. Every time I hold my wife's flip phone, I almost always mentally call out "wild access". I am still trying to give ninja steel a chance. It being the final neo Saban Era season, a sudarso being in it, and the anniversary are what's keeping me involved enough. My son actually enjoys it so watching with him makes me feel happy towards the show even with all its faults. I mean come on. I have to put up with the horrific nick app to watch it so I better enjoy it. Lol. The aforementioned Anime Festival also had Barbara Goodson (OG Rita Repulsa VO), and she seemed receptive to her other roles, like the female half to Mandilok! Master Org was a definite PR villain, and one to cover what Gaoranger didn't! The fact that the Master wasn't really the Master until he was defeated initially definitely gave him different aura from other villain leaders! Jindrax and Toxica actually reform and move on as opposed to their Gaoranger counterparts! He only appeared for two episodes, but how can anyone no like the deceptive villainy of Duke Org Onikage! The Jungle Blaster was also PR exclusive, and doesn't have a terrible design! The Battlizer of Wild Force was grossly underused, though! There was also a uniqueness in that ABC Kids would air new episodes BEFORE ABC Family! It had some good parts, but they weren't strong enough to overshadow "Forever Red"! Overdrive is a similar series in that the way Disney was handling things was changing, and few could care less for that season save for its Anniversary two-parter! Ninja Steel may become a Catch-22 between Wild Force and Overdrive! Either way, it can't be WORSE than Megaforce! Neo-Saban dropped the ball HARD with that one! |
07-24-2018, 08:13 PM | #1900 |
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I'll admit the show has its perks, but more for the Zords and Orgs than the Rangers themselves! The Mut-Orgs from the Time Force team-up were also unique villains in their own right!
The aforementioned Anime Festival also had Barbara Goodson (OG Rita Repulsa VO), and she seemed receptive to her other roles, like the female half to Mandilok! Master Org was a definite PR villain, and one to cover what Gaoranger didn't! The fact that the Master wasn't really the Master until he was defeated initially definitely gave him different aura from other villain leaders! Jindrax and Toxica actually reform and move on as opposed to their Gaoranger counterparts! He only appeared for two episodes, but how can anyone no like the deceptive villainy of Duke Org Onikage! The Jungle Blaster was also PR exclusive, and doesn't have a terrible design! The Battlizer of Wild Force was grossly underused, though! There was also a uniqueness in that ABC Kids would air new episodes BEFORE ABC Family! It had some good parts, but they weren't strong enough to overshadow "Forever Red"! Overdrive is a similar series in that the way Disney was handling things was changing, and few could care less for that season save for its Anniversary two-parter! Ninja Steel may become a Catch-22 between Wild Force and Overdrive! Either way, it can't be WORSE than Megaforce! Neo-Saban dropped the ball HARD with that one!
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