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02-26-2021, 05:13 AM | #21 |
Yodonna oshi
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I feel smaller, cheaper toy lines that are a step up from gacha would win me over too, not as a replacement for the big toys for kids, but I absolutely feel that if there was a smaller supplementary toy line—again in the supermarket, because I'm a boring adult—then I would pick it up. This is broadly my problem with merchandise for Transformers and MLP too; I'm old enough to be nostalgic here, and if you put a tiny pony in the same aisle as the soya milk or whatever, I will buy this stuff, but I won't make the effort to go out of my way to hunt things down, and I won't buy absurdly expensive, absurdly huge things, because what use have I for that? *she said, glancing down at the stack of reissue ponies by her bed* |
02-27-2021, 03:12 PM | #22 |
Suprise Gamma Future
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About the mecha and robots, I really like when the individual robots do stuff and don't just immediately merge into the combined form for every fight.
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02-27-2021, 03:22 PM | #23 |
Showa Girl
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This too. Definitely something I'm enjoying about Dynaman at the moment!
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02-28-2021, 09:52 AM | #24 |
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TL;DR This is mostly about Rider, as well as a commentary on what I'd like to see the franchise do. I do bring up other franchises in passing comparison. I like a mix of both insane gimmickry and complete all-in-one toys. And its hard to pick which one I like more.
I love the toyeticness of most modern shows. If the toys are so commonplace, it helps sell the reality of the world. At the same time, I feel that back when the toys weren't so out-the-wazoo, it made the transformation systems feel more special. Having said that, I'd like more to my toys than just the all-in-one transformation device, figures, mechs/vehicles, and that's it for 26-50 episodes. Its hard to describe. Early Heisei Rider shows did a pretty solid job with very few toys, but the franchise can't exist without a trillion gimmicks. Similarly, shows like Legend Heroes The Three Kingdoms and the BIMA franchise can get away with fewer toys. But then Ultraman comes in with a bazillion gimmicks and its doing amazing, short episode count and in-between shows notwithstanding. I kinda like a bit of both. While I enjoy all the collectible gimmicks of more modern shows, I will admit that it can get tiring after a while. On the other end of the spectrum, I love how unique most Phase 1 (and early Phase 2) rider belts were, but dislike how little they have in terms of gimmickry. An example of this would be Den-O and Deneb, or Fourze and Meteor. So I like the more modern stuff because I like lots of shiny plastic that makes noises, but I do miss the unique belts, limited gimmicks, and more "complete" suits. I'd like if it Rider did something like Sentai in recent years, where every other year there's a ton of merch, and elsewise is very little (e.g. LuPat to Ryusoulger to Kiramager to Zenkaiger). Sentai is otherwise pretty good on the toy department, I think. Same with Ultraman. And maybe Rider and Sentai could do a shortened episode count. I know Ultra fills that half a year with a side show, so maybe we could get a couple of movies here and there for Rider/Sentai. I also like how Ultraman has been doing a lot with RFID chips lately, as well as most of their transformation devices being hand-held. I feel Rider could do a lot with that. To echo Kurona from page 1, I also dislike the gimmicks being super-expensive and would like some gimmicks to be split between transformation-only and finisher-only. I know it all comes down to execution, among other factors. Sentai alternates, Ultraman has a legacy, some shows have good writers, cable TV is on the way out, some shows have less episodes than others. But I'd just like to see some other franchises (mainly Rider) execute gimmicks as well as Ultraman (and to an extent Sentai) does. Have a ton of cheap gimmicks with unique transformation devices, but have some gimmicks only used for certain things. |
02-28-2021, 10:29 AM | #25 |
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This is broadly my problem with merchandise for Transformers and MLP too; I'm old enough to be nostalgic here, and if you put a tiny pony in the same aisle as the soya milk or whatever, I will buy this stuff, but I won't make the effort to go out of my way to hunt things down, and I won't buy absurdly expensive, absurdly huge things, because what use have I for that?
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02-28-2021, 10:40 AM | #26 |
Yodonna oshi
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Oh, I relate totally. Just a glance at my bookcase reveals countless bits of nonsense that I could have refrained from and probably... taken out a mortgage on a house, haha. I am guilty of having a box just full of figures under my bed and I don't even have the space to put this stuff out, so like you I'm trying to avoid impulse buys. In this respect, lockdown has been kind of good.
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04-21-2021, 01:13 PM | #27 |
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I tend to like it better when the merchandise is used as a tool/creation of the people in the show.
Like Lockseeds, Zyudenchi & other trinkets like that are fun in their own right & definitely serve their purpose in their respective stories. But it always feels awkward when some kinda supernatural force or source of magic creates something as blatantly man-made as a Ranger Key, ya know? But Shift Cars, SPD Licenses, Buddyroids & things of that nature feel better to see on screen because they are crafted by characters in the show, making the toy-look that these pieces of "technology" have less egregious. |
04-22-2021, 01:29 PM | #28 |
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I would rather keep the toys be keep to a limit. My biggest problem with later Kamen Rider, Sentai, and Ultraman shows when they shove the toys in your face. It can be a turn off for people who want to become a fan, but feel like it's too gimmicky. You can sell toys without it being so obnoxious.
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04-22-2021, 01:36 PM | #29 |
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Something I'm liking about Zenkaiger right now is how, probably as a result of Sentai's waning sales; they've toned the toys they're selling WAYYYY down.
For the Zenkaigers themselves the totality of their toys are two mecha, which this time around flow very naturally from the rangers and there's absolutely zero auxiliary mechs; the changer, which y'know, is a changer; the holder... which has no function beyond literally holding gears; and the gears themselves, which are easily justifiable for an anniversary season, are very fun and in the toyline are in fact not DX releases. You come to our upcoming sixth ranger and he as well only has his changer, his holder and one mech. There's also Stacey's changer but that's premium bandai and also feels like a natural part of the story. Usually we'd be getting a bunch of weapons to shill, a new auxiliary mecha every episode, just all sorts of stuff. But this season things have been scaled back so that they're actually selling and advertising less toys than they were over 10 years ago, and it allows the show room to breathe and do whatever it wants without feeling like the toys are being too intrusive, because aside from arguably the gears it's literally just the bare essentials this time around without introducing stuff that'll become pointless or redundant or excessive later on. It's a very nice change of pace.
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04-22-2021, 03:16 PM | #30 |
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I wonder if anniversary seasons rekindle desires for older toys or new toys of older toys.
For example, the Gaoking Minipla coming out this year, convenient that it is one of the Legacy robots featured in Zenkaiger. So I wonder if Zenkaiger can push less toys directly. Also can't wait to see the sales figures and if kids really took to a non-red leader.
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