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03-26-2022, 01:52 PM | #371 |
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Yeah, the Decade RideWatch seems to have completely different principles behind it than the other RideWatches. Nothing in Tsukasa's arc says that he's not the same guy we knew in the Decade series, down to his power set and (enhanced) Driver. I definitely took him as having all his old memories.
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03-26-2022, 02:05 PM | #372 |
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Yeah, the Decade RideWatch seems to have completely different principles behind it than the other RideWatches. Nothing in Tsukasa's arc says that he's not the same guy we knew in the Decade series, down to his power set and (enhanced) Driver. I definitely took him as having all his old memories. |
03-26-2022, 02:07 PM | #373 |
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I should point out that it's the existence of the Another Rider that removes their memories, not the presence of a RideWatch. There is no Another Decade here, so he is never replaced. There's a bit more than that, but I can't say at this point, but the lack of an Another Decade is enough to explain the lack of memory loss.
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03-26-2022, 02:48 PM | #374 |
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Let me say this to start: as someone who loves a good portmanteau, the Heisaber is possibly the single most delightfully named doodad in all of Kamen Rider. The fact that I don't really remember what it looks like or what it does (specifically; obviously, it shoots CGI at things like most other Rider weapons) cannot detract from that.
Second, I want to talk a little bit about Zi-O's Decade armor. I generally like it. Decade's design is an all-time favorite, of course, so there's so automatic predisposition, but I think it avoids the big problem that I have with with the other Rider Armors. This is kind of related to my big problem with Rider weapons in general, but I'm rarely a big fan of armor power-ups. I think that Gaim is the only show that pulled it off well. With Zi-O and Ex-Aid, in particular, it often comes off looking like a mess of giant floppy foam and plastic pieces hanging off of the suit. The Decade armor, in contrast, is relatively clean and it brings back a lot of the lines from the original suit that I enjoyed so much. Quote:
And it also fits in with this whole two-parter's feel of being a recalibration after Act 1. The introduction of Tsukasa as an antagonist with a more fleshed-out character, the usage of Legend Rider Henshins, back-burnering the Time Jackers in favor of Woz and Decade, giving Sougo a bit more fire at the end... this is one of those stories where you can see the production team reacting to some of the complaints/deficiencies of the first Act. Not so much a shift as a slight tweak, but it's there.
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03-26-2022, 02:54 PM | #375 |
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Second, I want to talk a little bit about Zi-O's Decade armor. I generally like it. Decade's design is an all-time favorite, of course, so there's so automatic predisposition, but I think it avoids the big problem that I have with with the other Rider Armors. This is kind of related to my big problem with Rider weapons in general, but I'm rarely a big fan of armor power-ups. I think that Gaim is the only show that pulled it off well. With Zi-O and Ex-Aid, in particular, it often comes off looking like a mess of giant floppy foam and plastic pieces hanging off of the suit. The Decade armor, in contrast, is relatively clean and it brings back a lot of the lines from the original suit that I enjoyed so much.
Zi-O's really leaned into a Maximalist aesthetic for the suits and monsters, so I can't pretend that Decade Armor isn't very much an expression of the story's reality, but I still don't dig it. That said, I like how they slipped 2009 into the big barcode on the chest. That's cute.
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03-26-2022, 03:12 PM | #376 |
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I've actually never seen Zi-O(I saw that it was being written by the guys who made Ninninger(the show that killed Sentai for me) and butchered Hibiki(other than Inoue) and decided I was staying the f--k away)(funnily enough I'm told the Hibiki episodes are the best ones) but I'm told a reoccurring problem with it isn't that the main cast is poorly written per say but the recurring characters steal the spotlight from them 90% of the time
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03-26-2022, 04:22 PM | #377 |
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I'm pretty much 100% in the bag for Tsukasa? I mean, I'm watching Zi-O for the stories of Sougo, Geiz, Tsukuyomi, Woz, etc., but I'm not gonna pretend I'm not thrilled to see Tsukasa do whatever he wants at whatever amount the show feels like dispensing.
Tsukasa is a gigantic pain in the ass, but he's also a Legend Rider who's been instrumental in the defeat of a number of apocalyptic menaces. Tsukasa will always show up to ruin some Rider's day, but he'll eventually help them save it. The things people could criticize Tsukasa's character for are inextricably bound up in the things that make Tsukasa such a compelling character. He's the best because he's also frequently the worst. Quote:
KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 14 - ?GO! GO! GHOST 2015?
And to do it with such diametrically opposed characters! Sougo, who turns adversaries into allies and allies into friends; versus Tsukasa, who couldn?t ever pay a compliment without making it sound like an insult. Sougo is all smiles, while Tsukasa is all smirks. Sougo is outgoing and generous, while Tsukasa is moody and unreliable. Sougo?s goals are broadly stated and aggressively pursued, while Tsukasa?s are vague and haphazardly advanced. You literally couldn?t design a better villain for Sougo to face. Quote:
All of the Ghost Legend Rider stuff was great. Takeru continues to be a charming guest-star, bonding easily with Sougo over the weirdness of being a Ghost. (Which? there?s a gag at the end I loved, where Sougo immediately says that he?s hungry once he?s alive again. That?s a great callback to Takeru?s need to eat again when he was a ghost, and Takeru even says I KNOW, RIGHT in response. Except, this Takeru never died, right? So how could he commiserate with Sougo?) Makoto showing up ? was not expecting that! Bringing back Akari's Ghost Visibility Spray to, uh, make Takeru completely corporeal (???) was a neat way of paying homage to the cast members that weren't brought back. It?s all in service of a very Ghost plot, with Sougo using the power of a Luminary (Tsukasa) to free a tormented soul and reunite a family. It?s a very charming tribute to a frequently overlooked -slash- reviled series.
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This was a lot of fun, and I didn't even mention how much I loved the name "Heiseiber" for Decade Armor's weapon. (I LOVE IT SO MUCH.) Last episode definitely came off a little uneven, with a lot of Decade and Ghost but not enough Zi-O, so it was nice to see both the Decade and Ghost stuff feel connected to the Zi-O stuff. Connections! One more gift from the Ghost side of things!
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But just seeing Tsukasa swan around 9-To-5 and lazily demand respect while Team Zi-O tries to downplay his undeniable achievements in elevating the Heisei Rider aesthetics? super fun. Super fun! It?s all of the kids on the show playing straight man to Tsukasa?s immortal charisma and weird physicality. (He?s very balletic in this? I don?t remember Tsukasa gliding as much before.) He owns a room in a way that I think can get missed in the context of a tokusatsu show. Here, it?s like a play, and you?re just putty in his hands.
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03-26-2022, 04:23 PM | #378 |
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The Time Jackers removing Decade's powers would require an understanding of just what the fuck happened in the Decade Movie Wars, that's why he's fine. As a certain Dhampir said, "Decade has no story".
But yeah, Ghost 2-parter! Always fun to see Takeru back, as others have said, everyone of his post-show appearances, but also more of the gang makes this feel like an extended outing for the Ghost cast. And, let's be real, if any secondary could just jump in for five minutes for a fight scene with no other explanation than "I've got your back", it would be Makoto. I don't remember the details, but it's something how well this works as a Ghost plot when it also has to be the introduction of everyone's favourite destroyer of worlds, Tsukasa Kadoya. There were a lot of jokes before Zi-O aired that they should just do Decade 2, and in a way, him being here almost makes that a reality. Of course, now we're on the flipside, with Decade actively assisting the villains because it probably amuses him. All that's missing is Narutaki showing up to warn the time orphans.
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03-26-2022, 04:53 PM | #379 |
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I've actually never seen Zi-O(I saw that it was being written by the guys who made Ninninger(the show that killed Sentai for me) and butchered Hibiki(other than Inoue) and decided I was staying the f--k away)(funnily enough I'm told the Hibiki episodes are the best ones) but I'm told a reoccurring problem with it isn't that the main cast is poorly written per say but the recurring characters steal the spotlight from them 90% of the time
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For one, every tokusatsu hero eventually becomes powerful enough to defeat the Final Boss; that's just this genre's storytelling model. Every hero is eventually "OP", at least until the next hero's Winter Movie. It's a weirdly pejorative way of describing the central pillar of toy-driven storytelling. For another, Tsukasa's problems can't ever be solved by being More Powerful, just like every other Kamen Rider doesn't resolve their central emotional conflicts with a power-up or role-play item. The stuff that Tsukasa has to fix inside himself... that struggle runs parallel to the monsters and supervillains and apocalypses. Him overcoming the things that are broken inside of him, that's the power he needs to defeat some giant CG monster or whatever. The point of all these shows is that the power is pointless without emotional growth. Quote:
There were a lot of jokes before Zi-O aired that they should just do Decade 2, and in a way, him being here almost makes that a reality. Of course, now we're on the flipside, with Decade actively assisting the villains because it probably amuses him. All that's missing is Narutaki showing up to warn the time orphans.
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03-26-2022, 05:34 PM | #380 |
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Once again, as someone who's yet to see Ghost, I enjoyed this arc?
It's funny, since I have no real context about Ghost (except for "Ore wa Tenkuuji Takeru!" memes, and lots of dying), but I genuinely think I liked these episodes. It was rather fun to see Takeru and Sougo interact, especially for episode 14, it was an entertaining setup with them being invisible and working together to solve the arc's problem-of-the-week. And of course, the return of our favorite Destroyer of Worlds whose always to blame for everything, (Onore) Decade, Tsukasa Kadoya! While he doesn't do much here, I like how his upgrade is simply "now he can use all the Heisei Riders," though funny enough, I wouldn't have minded seeing Tsukasa have a Jikuu Driver, or new belt. I don't know, maybe it's because I find it fun to see a returning character use the new season's gimmicks, which is seen in recent Ultra Seasons, but I'm happy to see this jerk back at it again. And of course, I am a stupidly huge fan of Decade Armor. Its jingle is wonderful, having the stutter when activated, then bursts with energy once Zi-O dons the armor, the design fits the criteria of Decade Complete levels of absurd, featuring a card face mask (that changes between Riders to boot), a bar code with Katakana for "Kamen Rider Zi-O Decade Armor 2009." But a detail I find most interesting is that his eyes, that read "Decade," are green instead of Magenta/Pink (at this point, I'm convinced Zi-O is Pink, since Tsukasa insists Decade's Magenta, which is something he himself still stands by outside of Decade), almost making it seem like Decade's power is truly not his to control, considering how he obtains it. Also, Woz and Tsukasa's interactions when Decade Armor debuted was glorious. And The Heiseiber is legitimately one of my favorite Rider weapons of all time. I just love the design, the sounds, the aesthetic, and that name. That wonderful name. The .5 with Ghost was amusing in how Sougo and Geiz rip on Takeru for being the most Shounen Anime Rider, even bringing Dragon Ball, another property Toei owns which they jokingly bleep out (like with the BLEACH Movie they also did). And the one with Tsukasa... They said the thing! Gosh, I love how self-aware these things are. |
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