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12-05-2021, 07:23 PM | #41 |
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Good thing you enjoy W. I wonder why you don't like that last arc as you say in your review?
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12-05-2021, 08:51 PM | #42 |
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THE LAST SECTION OF "MOVIE WAR CORE": Core's just a real boring villain, and its motivation only exists to make Akiko feel bad about wanting the men in her life to value her. Equally bad is the way the movie casually deploys Tajador, a form that actually means something in OOO. Not a fun final act for me. THE FINAL ARC OF "W": I remember not really liking Wakana's turn? It felt real poorly motivated to me at the time. Sort of soured me on the last few episodes. That, and all of the Foundation X stuff felt like it came out of nowhere. Hope this answers your question!
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12-05-2021, 09:17 PM | #43 |
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I meant the final arc of the show thank you.
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12-06-2021, 11:20 PM | #44 |
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OOO, DEN-O, ALL RIDERS: LET’S GO KAMEN RIDERS
That’s the one thing I remembered from this movie. I love that shot of Our Heroes (well, Our Heroes And Also Ankh) getting crucified in Kamen Rider Plaza. (Not to be confused with Kamen Rider Aubrey Plaza.) It’s… I was very new to Kamen Rider when I saw this movie, and the gigantic thematic swings a Kamen Rider movie could take hadn’t really been made clear to me yet. So seeing a public execution steeped in Western religious iconography was… I did not see that coming! It’s a pretty shocking image! No pun intended! I dimly recalled that this was one of those Phase 2 movies where Shocker takes over everything, and it’s definitely that. (I think the other one is Kamen Rider 3?) There’s not really much to this movie outside of Kamen Riders and Shocker, though. It’s a 40th anniversary celebration of Kamen Rider, and boy do they never let you forget it. Like, the story or moral or lesson or whatever, it’s paper-thin: Kamen Rider -- much like Wu-Tang -- is for the children. We see a world without Kamen Riders, and we see children with nothing to look to for examples of bravery and dedication and sacrifice and sweet-ass bike tricks. It’s a very good lesson! I find it hard to complain about a movie whose text and subtext is Thank Goodness For Kamen Rider. But, man, this movie eventually just becomes a parade of Kamen Riders, with all the story inherent in, y’know, parades. It’s an entire final third that’s just introduction after introduction, and that’s in a movie that already spends a ton of its runtime introducing Kamen Riders! Like this guy! It’s the return of New Den-O, now with (I want to say) lighter hair. This was my first ever Den-O experience, and I don’t know that I got even half of the premise. I definitely didn’t get why Momotaros could just become a Den-O despite being one of the monster guys, and I think I sort of get it now. I guess those Decade episodes where he became a real boy are Den-O canon? Maybe? This was a fairly middle-of-the-road outing for New Den-O. He doesn’t really have an arc. (None of the superheroes do in this movie. Hell, not even Ankh learns a lesson, and he’s the one instigating the plot!) He’s put through another brief demise of Teddy, which I think now accounts for half of all Teddy stories to date? Him dying and Kotaro feeling distraught until Teddy just shows back up? But the Imagin are all very fun, and Kotaro doesn’t drag anything down. He’s fine, and Den-O’s always at least fun. Nice to see that cast again. And then it’s just a million Showa guys. I don’t truck with Showa, so all them old guys flipping through the air was not what I wanted in an OOO/Den-O film. They’re just there, which is pretty much how the entire final third of the film felt to me. I like Kamen Rider suits and all, but these guys were interchangeable for the plot. It was just more and more dudes, without anything for them to do or say. Except, of course, for the returning W team! It’s a cameo, at most, but I love seeing them. (And, what the hell, did Philip’s voice change between Movie War Core and this?! He’s got a relatively husky voice when he’s saying his two or three lines! He’s all grown up now!) Shotaro and Philip are maybe my favorite duo in all of Kamen Rider, so I’m going to be a hypocrite and applaud this movie for bringing them back for maybe thirty whole seconds. Beyond that… god, I don’t know what there even is to talk about. It’s a million hero suits fighting a million villain suits, and the only real theme is that Kamen Rider is an awesome franchise. It’s nothing I disagree with, but I don’t know that I needed it shouted at me for ninety minutes. Still, that crucifixion shot! Very cool.
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12-07-2021, 12:23 AM | #45 |
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I remember enjoying this movie and this being like my first taste of Den-O since I watched W, OOO, then went to Decade to do some Heisei Rider stuff. I also kind of really enjoy this movies like, last act honestly?
Idk there's something magical about the crowd helping the Riders long enough for them to transform. The old guard that is the Showa Riders leaping in as the crowd cheers their names. Owner's speech about how as long as people have justice in their hearts, Riders will return. The Heisei Crew coming out next with W getting the special treatment as the most recent addition next to OOO. And then the appearance of four showa characters I didn't even know existed because I only assumed Kikaider and Inazuman were anime. And then there's this Pokemon dude named Zubat? But turns out the dude in the show is this super badass guy? Real good stuff. And that's not mentioning stuff like the cool All Rider Break at the very end. Anyway as I'm typing this I'm rewatching that entire last third of the film which is something I do often. It's just this nice magical experience and it's something I'd like to recreate in my Fanfics alongside a similar moment in another movie one of these days since I am writing a Zi-O Fic. Regardless in terms of this movie while it isn't my favorite, I vibe with the last third heavily and that's all that matters to me. |
12-07-2021, 12:54 AM | #46 |
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OOO, DEN-O, ALL RIDERS: LET?S GO KAMEN RIDERS
And then it?s just a million Showa guys. I don?t truck with Showa, so all them old guys flipping through the air was not what I wanted in an OOO/Den-O film. They?re just there, which is pretty much how the entire final third of the film felt to me. I like Kamen Rider suits and all, but these guys were interchangeable for the plot. It was just more and more dudes, without anything for them to do or say. Last edited by Sylarking; 12-07-2021 at 12:58 AM.. |
12-07-2021, 01:05 AM | #47 |
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Idk there's something magical about the crowd helping the Riders long enough for them to transform. The old guard that is the Showa Riders leaping in as the crowd cheers their names. Owner's speech about how as long as people have justice in their hearts, Riders will return. The Heisei Crew coming out next with W getting the special treatment as the most recent addition next to OOO. And then the appearance of four showa characters I didn't even know existed because I only assumed Kikaider and Inazuman were anime. And then there's this Pokemon dude named Zubat? But turns out the dude in the show is this super badass guy? Real good stuff. And that's not mentioning stuff like the cool All Rider Break at the very end.
It's just (for me) not really doing anything else, which made rewatching it sort of boring? It's just a celebration of Kamen Rider, without really telling a story outside of that. And... man, there's not much nuance to the Kamen Rider Is Great parts? It's these kids who think Kamen Rider is a joke, until they're willing to die for it. I respect the moral there -- I will never say no to a story about kids learning to be better because of Kamen Riders -- but there's not really a lot to chew on for a repeat viewing. But, for sure, that finale was real good on the first viewing.
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12-07-2021, 01:08 AM | #48 |
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Sure! But a) I don't have to care about it, and b) a lot of it is just dudes jumping over railings for a few minutes. This isn't like an upcoming rewatch where a Showa guy conveys necessary life lessons to a Heisei guy; this is just stuntmen in suits jumping around.
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12-07-2021, 01:21 AM | #49 |
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I get the feeling you're going to have a tough time coming up with things to say by the time you get to the third or fourth of these 'have a hundred suits fighting for an hour' films. At least some have funny gimmicks, like a race car match!
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12-07-2021, 01:28 AM | #50 |
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I hope so! I mean, at the very least, there'll be some weird anecdotes and unique/wrong opinions!
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