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09-11-2023, 05:49 AM | #11 |
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You will undoubtedly be proven right in the near future though, because this whole "Cards have individual weights"-thing will fly out the window, be forgotten within the first 10 episodes and never mentioned again. Heck, we're lucky if they remember it after this one. |
09-11-2023, 06:07 AM | #12 |
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Because all the cards he touched so far were light, only Odorippa was stupid heavy is what I'm thinking. If we were in Episode 27 or something and he handled dozens of cards this would be weird, but Odorippa is the - fourth one he ever held? Not unthinkable that Hopper1, SteamLiner and Kamantis are simply lighter.
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09-11-2023, 07:23 AM | #13 |
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They could make a special tool that weighs the cards, like the scale in that scene, and the cards only have real weight when put on that scale, and outside of that scale the cards mysteriously weigh like any ordinary cards. That way, the writers can show that the RCC's do have mysterious, unexplainable, miraculous properties, while also maintaining logical consistencies. Two birds stoned at once.
That probably is what's going on, they just didn't feel the need to explain it since you can just see it happening. |
09-11-2023, 09:10 AM | #14 |
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I was excited to hear the new insert song by Beverly, since Be The One is my favorite OP. Gotchard's got a great soundtrack so far! The action continues to be impressive, with how SteamHopper launched Golddash in the air and then jumped to land on it. Houtarou may be dense in academics, but to compensate for that, he is a quick and imaginative thinker to come up with these cool moves, as well as his unconventional solution to the alchemy test. Quote:
Rinne mentioned the definition of alchemy as creating something from nothing and or creating life from death/the non-living. I guess the elixir hypothesis I made last week is plausible after all. Looks like one of the villains is aiming to create an articial life.
There have also been several mentions of natural order. How big exactly is the scope of the power of alchemy? Can it defy the laws of physics? Can it manipulate reality? Can it turn someone into a God? Yep, that's what I think as well. Atropos is Storious, Clotho is Zooous and Lachesis is Legeiel. Quote:
Between the leads, there's a contrast for their father, where both Hotaro and Rinne's father leave them, but both reacted to it in opposite ways. Hotaro is more open-minded about why his father can leave it, particularly due to Tamami insisting that it's ok for her husband to go chase after personal dreams. While Rinne has daddy issues to resent him, regardless of reasons.
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Makes me wonder about the biological needs of Chemies, as artificial lifeforms. While they can live for 120 years without visible aging, they still have a basic metabolism that affects their weight depending on their diet, which means poor physical health might kill them. Intriguing. Quote:
Though certainly a more serious than Hotaro, the haughty part of Rinne in ep. 1 seems to be abandoned entirely, with her just explaining things to Hotaro, all facts without feelings (positive or negative). Continuing from the serious (and professional) part, she'd be the rigid type of following written rules and duties, to remind Hotaro about his tactics being forbidden. I guess like Akira Amami then... the hostility was a one-off but introductory part (with Akira getting reprimanded for it and apologizing), though she does refer to Hotaro as poem-lover again here, but wonder if her school side would be touched upon, with her seemingly more cheerful as a child.
You compare Rinne to the Fangire Hunters, but her use of manholes is like Kitajima Yuko.
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09-11-2023, 01:15 PM | #15 |
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I completely agree with the "show, don't tell" approach. The problem is, what they've shown is inconsistent. Also, there are several unanswered questions: - If Minato said that what Houtarou did was an incorrect method, then what's the correct method? Rinne said @ 10:27 that alchemists wearing the Ring can change the weight of the cards. But Houtarou didn't have the Ring until @ 21:20. So how was he supposed to change the weight of the cards without a Ring? - What's the point of changing the weight of the cards in the first place? Does it make them stronger or gain new powers/skills? Does it make them able to evolve? Does it make them able to fuse better with their best match card? Quote:
Alchemy seems to contradict itself. Minato talks about conservation of mass, while Rinne talks about creating something from nothing. But I guess that's intentional to depict alchemy as something difficult to understand, since Houtarou points out that the result is basically magic.
There's an important point I forgot to mention in episode 1's thread. If Fuga and Houtarou were already at Ouroboros @ 12:05, then where did The Sisters come from? Did they come from another another world, or did they simply open a portal from a different place in Ouroboros? |
09-11-2023, 01:24 PM | #16 |
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09-11-2023, 05:13 PM | #17 |
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Is it just me or does the academy feel like the HQ of Ryukendo? Maybe it's the lighting.
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09-12-2023, 03:38 PM | #18 |
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Rinne reminds me of Hirose, who also had issues about her father releasing a bunch of monsters from cards. Maybe this is why Rinne feels responsible as an alchemist, she wants to atone for her father's actions. However, Fuga honestly seemed like a pretty good guy, both in Houtarou's interaction and Rinne's flasback. Even though he "betrayed" the Alchemy Academy, I think he probably had a good reason.
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Yeah, this episode was a much better impression of Rinne. She even smiles at Houtarou's dream to befriend all the Chemies, so looks like she shares some of his idealism and that her coldness from before was a defensive behavior that she drops now that she's had time to know Houtarou a little better. Kind of like an anti-Keiwa. Instead, the real mean archetype seems to be Spanner, who dismisses Houtarou's dream as an "unfunny joke", which I guess makes him an anti-Isamu.
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09-12-2023, 07:06 PM | #19 |
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If Minato said that what Houtarou did was an incorrect method, then what's the correct method? Rinne said @ 10:27 that alchemists wearing the Ring can change the weight of the cards. But Houtarou didn't have the Ring until @ 21:20. So how was he supposed to change the weight of the cards without a Ring?
- What's the point of changing the weight of the cards in the first place? Does it make them stronger or gain new powers/skills? Does it make them able to evolve? Does it make them able to fuse better with their best match card? Changing the weight is likely about learning the basics of alchemy. Like how in math you do a bunch of equations and problems that seem pointless by themselves but help you learn the basics that you apply to real world problems |
09-13-2023, 09:25 AM | #20 |
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Manhole Alchemist FTW!
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I wonder why you'd not think of Spanner's behavior as just being honest and blunt here, because it can just get interpreted as him being a "tsundere" who wants to give a reality check to Hotaro with a standoffish front or such - as in the world is a cruel and horrible place always, no buts, thus they have to follow suit by having cold-detached traits ("becoming practical and realistic), which often get agreed upon by fandom too (like you on Michinaga but extend that as general consensus). Though lighthearted shows will have anyone on the good side being seen as always pure white, to the antagonist's pure black.... should only giving praises and no criticisms, rejecting ideas/possibility of them being in the wrong.
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