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04-08-2022, 05:43 PM | #561 |
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That's a good point! The Sougo story is about a guy in the present worried about the power he's received, and the Geiz story is about a guy from the future who travels to the past to either fix it or burn it all down. Nice catch!
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04-08-2022, 08:45 PM | #562 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 21 - “MIRROR WORLD 2019”
No one said TATAKAE, 0/10. Beyond that, I thought this was a pleasant-if-unexceptional episode of Kamen Rider Zi-O. We’re still exploring the various outcomes for a future event, which is a little tiresome. There’s a scene that basically just reiterates the many breadcrumbs of Oma Day info we’ve gotten over the last twenty episodes, but we don’t really get a lot of new information on what this all means to our characters. And some of that’s the point! Sougo asks the Time Orphans what should be a fairly simple question: If they don’t want a future where Oma Zi-O obliterates humanity (but in a nice way), then what do they want the future to look like? They can’t just be fighting against the Misery Fields of 2068; they should have some positive goal they can articulate. Right? But they don’t, and while that’s sweet and sad, it’s nothing this episode really explores. True to the themes of Ryuki, it’s all questions, but not much in the way of answers. What this whole Oma Day build-up is missing is more direct dialogue from Team Zi-O about what exactly the best outcome looks like for each of them. Both Wozez have been very clear about what they’re working towards. Even the Time Jackers, as dumb as their schemes are, have a clearly delineated goal. Team Zi-O’s weirdly aimless in this part of the show, preventing little tragedies but only making Serious Faces about the larger tragedies barrelling down on them. There's something poignant to that aimlessness - that the future is something you have to make happen, and if you don't, someone else will - but it still robs this episode of a sense of urgency. (Real quick: I find the Time Jackers’ fortnightly schemes to be hilarious. I don’t at all understand how some random rampaging monster is supposed to be the unquestioned King of Time, no matter how undefeatable the monster is. Last episode’s attempt with Quiz was comically inept, just some grunting monster shambling down hallways and settling dumb scores. The idea that any of these Monsters of the Week are destined for godhood is pretty pretty funny to me.) While the steadily mounting nervousness over Oma Day didn’t really do it for me, I did really enjoy how this show reoriented itself towards Ryuki’s investigative/horror framework. It’s nothing too special – a montage of Team Zi-O pounding the pavement and/or doing a Google search, plus one Legend Non-Rider appearance in Okubo from ORE Journal – but it felt a little more detailed than the usual strategy of running around Tokyo until they met a monster or a Rider. Like, they went to the old ORE Journal HQ! They interviewed people connected to the victims! Minimal mystery ingredients, but it’s still there, and I appreciated it. All of the Ryuki stuff landed real well for me, give or take no one in a tan overcoat saying The Word. There’s a terror to Shinji that’s interesting to experience, considering how eternally upbeat and impetuous he was before. Seeing his apartment done up in the same reflection-blocking newspapers as the apartment where he found his Advent Deck in Ryuki’s premiere is nicely chilling. He’s haunted, literally and figuratively, which is very interesting to me. I don’t know if it’s four episodes of Future Riders or what, but the Legend Rider parts of this episode really delivered for me. I like the show finally interrogating what the Time Orphans want if they win (RYUKI THEMES!), but not enough of this episode was about that for me to love it. Hopefully soon!
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04-08-2022, 09:09 PM | #563 |
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Ore Journal going out of business is bull and I don't like it.
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04-08-2022, 09:34 PM | #565 |
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This is such an interesting way to make a Ryuki Tribute, because for all intents and purposes, it's very non-standard as we've got Another Ryuga instead. Not much to say about this first part but I found it interesting enough in regards to how they used the Legend Rider stuff.
Also old places/establishments not being there hits hard, and I haven't even seen Ryuki. It makes for a very believable passage of time kind of thing. As for the BGM Preview stuff, it's the same as last time and I still prefer the standard Ryuki BGM Swap. Zero's Legend Episode Previews Corner - EP 22 Preview: |
04-08-2022, 10:17 PM | #566 |
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Apparently ORE Journal's shutdown date was a reference to the original tie-in website made by TV-Asahi being taken offline. Quote:
This is such an interesting way to make a Ryuki Tribute, because for all intents and purposes, it's very non-standard as we've got Another Ryuga instead. Not much to say about this first part but I found it interesting enough in regards to how they used the Legend Rider stuff.
Ryuki's final episode (not to be confused with Episode Final) ends with the timeline getting reset so that the Rider War and its subsequent casualties never happen. Zi-O actually runs with this: there is no Ryuki here because there is no Kamen Rider Ryuki. There never was a Kamen Rider Ryuki. All that we have left is Shinji's asshole reflection hanging around in Mirror World as this one remaining artifact of a timeline that was already erased before the Time Jackers had a chance to get around to it themselves. I love that Zi-O did this, especially when every other Legend Rider crossover has Ryuki just hanging around in the background like it's no big deal. |
04-08-2022, 10:31 PM | #567 |
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Ryuki's final episode (not to be confused with Episode Final) ends with the timeline getting reset so that the Rider War and its subsequent casualties never happen. Zi-O actually runs with this: there is no Ryuki here because there is no Kamen Rider Ryuki. There never was a Kamen Rider Ryuki. All that we have left is Shinji's asshole reflection hanging around in Mirror World as this one remaining artifact of a timeline that was already erased before the Time Jackers had a chance to get around to it themselves.
I love that Zi-O did this, especially when every other Legend Rider crossover has Ryuki just hanging around in the background like it's no big deal. Like, I get that at this point Zi-O is going full on Time Shenanigans and we aren't meant to think about it too hard, but like, Ryuki's' statue is right there in the future.
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04-08-2022, 10:35 PM | #568 |
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This Shinobi arc feels like the early arcs of ZI-O which I think was intentional to ease the audience into our new status quo. I loved Sougo confrontation with Rentaro him using what happend in Episode 16 as personal experience of his own life to help motivete Rentaro to be the man he wants to be rather than just be handed his powers. I also love how Geiz dosen't immidtatly trust white Woz and how he grown from the early episodes cause I feel like the Geiz from episode 1 would've just taken the Shinobi watch.
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But then this begs the question: How in the world could there even be knowledge of a Ryuga, let alone there be Another Ryuga, if the Rider War never happened?
Like, I get that at this point Zi-O is going full on Time Shenanigans and we aren't meant to think about it too hard, but like, Ryuki's' statue is right there in the future.
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04-08-2022, 10:40 PM | #570 |
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Also, the movie can be read as a discarded timeline, which is how Ryuga can still be hanging around in the Mirror World. Seems like that's where Zi-O ended up?
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