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01-20-2022, 09:35 PM | #331 |
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I think my opinion of basically... every V-Cin until Build's are "I watched this when I was first getting into Kamen Rider and marathoning W through Ex-Aid; I remember basically nothing about them but my tastes have so completely changed and these stories are generally more complex than their shows to the extent I can't trust what I think of them anymore". And this review is a pretty good example! Because I don't remember taking anything like this away from this movie, but I don't think that's really because of a different take; but because I didn't get much from it or was really paying attention to much of it, and I feel the same way about most other V-Cins! In other words this is a roundabout way of saying "Thank you for this glowing review that makes me realise I should probably go ahead and rewatch a bunch of these"
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01-20-2022, 09:59 PM | #332 |
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...And yeah, honestly, 90% of what I remember about this movie from watching it years ago is just that scene, which makes it hard to contribute much insight beyond that. (The other 10% of what I remember is that it was a totally serviceable if inessential Chase story. Well, like 9% that, and then 1% Accel being there.)
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I think my opinion of basically... every V-Cin until Build's are "I watched this when I was first getting into Kamen Rider and marathoning W through Ex-Aid; I remember basically nothing about them but my tastes have so completely changed and these stories are generally more complex than their shows to the extent I can't trust what I think of them anymore". And this review is a pretty good example! Because I don't remember taking anything like this away from this movie, but I don't think that's really because of a different take; but because I didn't get much from it or was really paying attention to much of it, and I feel the same way about most other V-Cins! In other words this is a roundabout way of saying "Thank you for this glowing review that makes me realise I should probably go ahead and rewatch a bunch of these"
I think it's that I've developed a fluency in this genre, you know? It's like learning any language: the early days are all catching keywords and fumbling conjugation; then a slow refinement after tons of practice; then you're conversant, eloquent. The little nuances you used to overlook are suddenly neon-lit and unmistakable. You're bypassing topic sentences and blunt declarations in favor of allegory, in favor of poetry. It's so nice to revisit work and find that you've grown enough to appreciate it more, don't you think?
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01-20-2022, 10:55 PM | #333 |
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I think it's that I've developed a fluency in this genre, you know? It's like learning any language: the early days are all catching keywords and fumbling conjugation; then a slow refinement after tons of practice; then you're conversant, eloquent. The little nuances you used to overlook are suddenly neon-lit and unmistakable. You're bypassing topic sentences and blunt declarations in favor of allegory, in favor of poetry.
It's so nice to revisit work and find that you've grown enough to appreciate it more, don't you think? That said I have to place a limit on it, I can't just revisit every single Kamen Rider show I watched early on, y'know? But Fourze was my first so that's basically mandatory. Build as well being one of my favourites. And W is just so fantastic and solid and where I truly fell in love. And hell why wouldn't I want to watch OOO and Ghost a third time? Ex-Aid as well also seems like a fun time--
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01-20-2022, 11:03 PM | #334 |
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Totally!! I feel very similarly. I would never recommend, say, the 01 V-Cinemas or V3 to any new viewer; but as I am now? Kinda love both!
That said I have to place a limit on it, I can't just revisit every single Kamen Rider show I watched early on, y'know? But Fourze was my first so that's basically mandatory. Build as well being one of my favourites. And W is just so fantastic and solid and where I truly fell in love. And hell why wouldn't I want to watch OOO and Ghost a third time? Ex-Aid as well also seems like a fun time--
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01-21-2022, 12:20 AM | #335 |
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Kind of like how Ghost and Saber ended up crossing over (and to a somewhat more random extent, Zero-One and Ex-Aid), I guess it's no surprise they had to fit in at least one significant crossover between Drive and W, and Teru made the most sense.
Although while they're still distinct shows there's always been kind of a synchronicity to W and Drive (which, I know, Riku Sanjo but still) what with being Riders that were kind of the most overt in being Superheroes who fight crime and stop monsters instead of the usual drama that comes with being a Kamen Rider. So I feel like they just gel well together. |
01-21-2022, 12:28 AM | #336 |
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Although while they're still distinct shows there's always been kind of a synchronicity to W and Drive (which, I know, Riku Sanjo but still) what with being Riders that were kind of the most overt in being Superheroes who fight crime and stop monsters instead of the usual drama that comes with being a Kamen Rider. So I feel like they just gel well together.
-Two-part mystery format -Heavy emphasis on partnership -Ties???????? While Drive was way more of an ensemble than W (and W went a little harder on the Backstory Mystery stuff), there's a lot of structural and tonal similarities between the two shows. That's the reason why I wish we'd gotten a deeper story with Shinnosuke and Terui. They fit so well together, and then this movie just has them bounce a couple jokes off of each other while Chase's story does all the heavy lifting.
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01-21-2022, 02:42 AM | #337 |
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As for casting trivia, this movie?s original Roidmude (one of three out of 109 to be female. Seriously, what?s up with that?) is played by Mami Yamisaki, who was previously immature comic relief villain Shizuka in GoGo Sentai Boukenger. Quite the glow up. |
01-21-2022, 08:01 AM | #338 |
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I think the funniest thing about this movie is they had to release an entirely new Break Gunner due to the fact that Chaser's form in this is incompatible with the original release. The original just did not have enough indention on the front of it for that blade of the Super Rhino Viral Core to go through I guess.
But yeah aside from that I do remember Accel's cameo the most. Probably because it clashes so much with this movie given it has nothing to do with the current plot. It's basically a way to keep Shinnosuke and Gou out of the story until them entering doesn't matter so that Chase can keep his spotlight. One fun quirk I love which is one of the few major details I can remember. But they have the Fumen stand from W just in the background of the Futo side during the border dispute just to emphasize "Yes, this is Futo" |
01-21-2022, 10:44 AM | #339 |
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What is the most gender-balanced Kajin group in Rider? Grongi? Fangire? Dopants?
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01-21-2022, 11:32 AM | #340 |
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Very confused at this regional disparity! My brain is not at all in Top Gear!
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