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Yes, more people would be great! | 52 | 46.43% | |
No, a smaller fandom is best. | 25 | 22.32% | |
I'm fine either way. | 35 | 31.25% | |
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10-13-2021, 02:18 AM | #201 |
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All this talk about Squid Game reminds me that we already have a toku Squid Game:
I don't even watch Squid Game...
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10-13-2021, 05:41 AM | #202 |
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I've seen clips of it and was almost a bit disappointed that it didn't actually involve octopi!
But I'm guessing it's fairly overrated seeing as these so-called ''breakthrough'' things are usually of variable quality .e.g. I'd rather BTS be popular here than Gangnam Style, for example, and generally I find that most of what's popular any time, any place is usually rubbish, so you can't really say it's better than other K-dramas or better than tokusatsu just because it's popular. I don't know why I keep replying really but please bear in mind that we don't know what's going on in people's real lives, for example having autism in one country or place might be a different situation to another. |
10-13-2021, 06:45 AM | #203 |
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Of course, will be great to the fandom.
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10-13-2021, 07:22 AM | #204 |
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I've seen clips of it and was almost a bit disappointed that it didn't actually involve octopi!
But I'm guessing it's fairly overrated seeing as these so-called ''breakthrough'' things are usually of variable quality .e.g. I'd rather BTS be popular here than Gangnam Style, for example, and generally I find that most of what's popular any time, any place is usually rubbish, so you can't really say it's better than other K-dramas or better than tokusatsu just because it's popular. I don't know why I keep replying really but please bear in mind that we don't know what's going on in people's real lives, for example having autism in one country or place might be a different situation to another. Squid Game might not be this massive game-changing thing like some people think it is, but it is a VERY good show and is worthy of the attention it's getting. It absolutely is objectively better than almost every toku; the production design, acting, consideration of the plot and characters, all that stuff is objectively better than any tokusatsu. That's not down to opinion. Whether you personally like it better or not is completely subjective, but on an actual production value it outclasses any toku in every single way without question. Popularity has nothing to do with it. Last edited by RyusoulRed; 10-13-2021 at 07:28 AM.. |
10-13-2021, 07:26 AM | #205 |
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I've seen clips of it and was almost a bit disappointed that it didn't actually involve octopi!
But I'm guessing it's fairly overrated seeing as these so-called ''breakthrough'' things are usually of variable quality .e.g. I'd rather BTS be popular here than Gangnam Style, for example, and generally I find that most of what's popular any time, any place is usually rubbish, so you can't really say it's better than other K-dramas or better than tokusatsu just because it's popular. I don't know why I keep replying really but please bear in mind that we don't know what's going on in people's real lives, for example having autism in one country or place might be a different situation to another. And to assume it's overrated or "rubbish" because it's popular is super dismissive and nonsensical, especially if you haven't seen it. And it is better than a majority of toku, not because it's popular, because it's writing and production value outclass most toku. |
10-13-2021, 11:00 AM | #206 |
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I was just saying that it was good that BTS are setting a better example of Korean music to your average person where I live than Gangnam Style, which in Cornwall a lot of people are still going to remember! Plus what is 'objective' quality of some little internet television programme, and how important really is that in the grand scheme of issues facing the world today? You are going to want a tokusatsu forum to back tokusatsu, considering some people in the past have seemed to claim to be tokusatsu fans while hating everything you would ask them about!
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10-13-2021, 01:51 PM | #207 |
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I was just saying that it was good that BTS are setting a better example of Korean music to your average person where I live than Gangnam Style, which in Cornwall a lot of people are still going to remember! Plus what is 'objective' quality of some little internet television programme, and how important really is that in the grand scheme of issues facing the world today? You are going to want a tokusatsu forum to back tokusatsu, considering some people in the past have seemed to claim to be tokusatsu fans while hating everything you would ask them about!
And we're not asking people to "not back tokusatsu", whatever the hell that means, we are simply saying that from a production standpoint, other shows are better than it. |
10-13-2021, 02:37 PM | #208 |
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Yea, as much as I like toku, there are plenty of shows and movies that have bigger budgets for better effects than some toku shows.
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10-15-2021, 12:26 AM | #209 |
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I also want this weirdo to acknowledge one other thing.
Kamen Rider Amazons, the most adult and mainstream of any Kamen Rider series, is available on Amazon Prime. It never even reached being mentioned in the mainstream. But according to your logic, it should be super popular like Squid Game. What's up with that? |
10-15-2021, 02:35 AM | #210 |
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I think that was technically not a worldwide release. But children's programming is arguably a more important genre for television in the grand scheme of things than something I'm not sure if kids are even allowed to watch and so comparing toku which is largely family viewing to Squid Game is admittedly flawed, I mean I would have thought that the average person would look back on with more fondness for something they watched when they were 10 than something they watched in their 20s, and so although when you're a teenager or young adult, adult TV might seem more ''grown up'', at the end of the day the BBC would be nowhere without things like Blue Peter or Doctor Who!
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