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02-19-2022, 09:08 PM | #511 |
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There is a lot of stuff to love in Gorider, I was honestly surprised by how good the whole thing ended up being. The fact that the entire climax hinges on Blade lore was really clever and totally unexpected after years of team-ups that completely disregard so much of the shows' continuity (case in point, there are at least a couple of these movies where the Joker undead is teamed up with a bunch of other monsters).
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02-19-2022, 10:19 PM | #512 |
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It is, but how many of these films have Black and Black RX hanging out together like two separate people?
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02-19-2022, 10:20 PM | #513 |
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All but one of the post-Decade ones, because Decade has officially doubled the number of people who are Black and Black RX. I thought that'd make you happy?!
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02-19-2022, 10:26 PM | #514 |
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A weird thing to say, but Shimoyama is the only writer who has managed to consistently make me like Kaito. He has a weird grasp on a character I actively dislike to make him work.
It's weird, but kinda fitting since he has both a good grasp on Legend characters and characters in general. His stories might sometimes be a bit patchy, but the core of them is great when it comes to characters. Really curious how I'll find Ninninger.
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02-19-2022, 11:26 PM | #515 |
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Giving Kaito a little room to come to grips with his failure, and then try and find a better path... how can you dislike that, even if you dislike Kaito? It's a smart choice for that character's resurrection.
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02-20-2022, 11:13 PM | #516 |
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Originally posted to "Kamen Rider Die rewatches Kamen Rider Build" on September 14th, 2019:
KAMEN RIDER BUILD MOVIE: HEISEI GENERATIONS FINAL So, I've seen this one before. Back when I was first watching Ex-Aid (I want to say before I watched Another Ending?) I saw that there was a Build/Ex-Aid movie on the Wiki. I'm like, sure, I'll watch that. I saw Build in the True Ending movie and a brief bit in the series, so this should be a good continuation. It, uh, really wasn't. I didn't know virtually anyone in the movie, and, unlike Dr. Pac-Man, Ex-Aid wasn't even the main character. It wasn't a super-fun watch. I mean, bad Kamen Rider is still fun, I didn't regret watching it, but there wasn't a lot in the story I could latch onto. I didn't know or care about any of the Legend Riders. However, as I would almost immediately go back to W and start watching forward on the Heisei Riders, this became a movie I was desperate to revisit. Not because I remembered it as being some franchise highlight, no. I remembered that this is the one where Ankh comes back. It's, unfortunately, not a huge part of the story. Most of the movie is a slightly-dumber version of a Build adventure. There's a strange emphasis on Banjou, and why he's a Kamen Rider. I think that's a solid idea in theory (science term!), but the execution is mostly a corny-ass "Always help people" whatever. It's fine. It's totally generic, in that it applies to literally every Rider in the movie, but, sure, okay, Banjou wants to help people now. You could've plugged nearly any secondary Rider from the last nine years in his place, but it's still a serviceable story that largely respects his storyline to date. (It's a bit of a step back, but only a bit.) Sento is pretty much just a dogged investigator, with a story that should feel more personal (this villain has a grudge against Takumi!) but just comes off as some random mad scientist Build has to beat to save the world. There's fun guest appearances by the non-W Riders who didn't show up in last series's winter movie. The Legend Rider fight sequences aren't as good as the last winter movie, though. Honestly, nothing was as good as the last winter movie. Dr-Pac Man was outstanding. This hits the beats, it's all decent, but the story just never elevated it for me. The "what is heroism" runner is so dull. But, Ankh comes back. I think OOO is maybe my favorite Kamen Rider show. I feel like I watched it in a day or two. (It was probably a couple weeks.) I couldn't get enough of it. I don't think it's the perfect show, but it's good at everything. It's the rare Kamen Rider show where I don't think it makes any mistakes. (Okay, maybe the theme song? Ska has not aged well!) Other shows may beat it at certain things, but they all have problems. OOO only problem is that I can't watch more of it right now. So, here's this gift I'm given where, six years after we were promised Ankh would be revived, they actually pay it off. Sure, it's for a minute, and sure, he doesn't stick around, but Ankh comes back. And he immediately tells Eiji he looks like shit! (He sort-of does. He is, uh, definitely six years older.) This was a thing that, when I first saw it, meant nothing to me. Now, it means everything. I don't want to say it made this movie great (it didn't, this is a pretty forgettable movie), but it's hard to take too many shots at epic fan service like this. It obviously would've been better if that kind of moment, along with the Fourze and Gaim and Ghost stuff, had been part of a better movie. I don't know. It's possible I'm being too hard on it. Build is a really good series, and I sort-of expect better from its related content. The villains on Build, in particular, are so richly realized that Bikaiser feels even more thin. He's a couple of cackling lunatics, trying to destroy the world. Whatever. It's no wonder that, while I remembered that Ankh was in this (he came back!), I remembered virtually nothing else about the plot. It's a movie that's great at being a Legend Rider delivery system, but only okay at being a Build or Ex-Aid story. ~HOO BOY~ Here’s the thing: this isn’t a movie about why Banjou is a Kamen Rider. It’s a movie about why Banjou is Sento’s partner. It’s almost hilarious how off-the-mark I was a couple years ago. The movie is littered with Partnership iconography and motifs. The main thrust of the plot is reuniting Banjou and Parado with their partners. The huge guest-star, Eiji, longs to be reunited with Ankh. The villains are two men who become more powerful when they combine. The doomsday device is a pair of clasped hands. And, I mean, what in the hell could be more Build than a story about how two people become better (or, alternately, more powerful) for joining forces? Everything in this story is about how Kamen Riders better the people closest to them. Eiji made a hero out of Ankh. Emu made a hero out of Parado. It’s a story about multiple Best Matches! Even Banjou’s whole But Why Heroism speech landed better for me now, because… it’s not generic? Or, maybe, it’s purposefully generic? It’s Banjou not getting why the other Riders fight, because he can’t really articulate why he does what he does. But he does know that Sento’s his friend, and that Sento believes in him, so he’s going to fight for that. For their partnership. (The first thing he does after he declares that he's Kamen Rider Cross-Z is go help Sento! Again, this movie is zero percent subtle about its story! And I still missed it entirely! For two plus years! No one should ever listen to me talk about Kamen Rider!) Once I figured out that this was a Partnership story - and after I stopped being angry at myself for entirely missing it the first time - everything in this movie popped for me. I got why Bikaiser was the villain. I got why the movie’s structured the way it’s structured, with our main pairings split off for the bulk of the story. I got why it’s two giant hands. Anyway, yeah, I love this movie now. Took me a minute, but I eventually figured it out. Eiji would be proud!
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02-21-2022, 12:29 AM | #517 |
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I... really, really liked this movie. Like, absolutely, you are looking at my personal favorite of the big crossover movies to be honest. Like, I think what sold me on this movie was Banjou's journey, and I love your take on it now because yeah that's absolutely right. Also I just love the pathos all the Riders call out towards the end when Sento and Emu call out Bi-Kaiser on what it truly means to be a Kamen Rider.
It's also just nice seeing them remember random minor forms/weapons. Like you have Gentaro pulling out some random stamps, Eiji gets to use Gatakiriba cause we're in a movie, heck I literally gasped when Takeru just straight up used Newton at the start. Real great stuff. Also that bit at the climax where all the Riders say their own catchphrase and try to argue over who gets precedence is hilarious, real great stuff. Now for the ranking list. I know we're missing 3rd and 4th, and that it might be easy to figure out which is which, but I'll say those to when you get to those movies. Heck this listing will probably change by then because Beyond Generations will have been out on home video and it's shaping up to be a real good one from previews. 1st: Generations Final 2nd: Megamax 5th: Generations 6th: Full Throttle 7th: 2010 8th: Sengoku 9th: Ultimatum 10th: Core 11th: Genesis Anyway I feel like this was the start of Toei being slightly more cruel. Because while there was a gap, there's a shorter gap between this and Memory of Heroez than Megamax and this in terms of like, the Ankh teasing. Because you've got this in late 2017, Memory of Heroez came out in 2020 and now... because I don't trust Toei, you've got the OOO 10th Movie which I'm scared might end in a similar fashion? |
02-21-2022, 12:41 AM | #518 |
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Anyway I feel like this was the start of Toei being slightly more cruel. Because while there was a gap, there's a shorter gap between this and Memory of Heroez than Megamax and this in terms of like, the Ankh teasing. Because you've got this in late 2017, Memory of Heroez came out in 2020 and now... because I don't trust Toei, you've got the OOO 10th Movie which I'm scared might end in a similar fashion?
(Also, I can almost guarantee that if the 10th Anniversary film doesn't definitively reunite Eiji and Ankh, they'll not-reunite them in a way where I'll go That Was The Right Ending.)
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02-21-2022, 08:39 AM | #519 |
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Anyway, there's only one stop left on your itinerary for this thread. How do you feel about that?
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I think OOO is maybe my favorite Kamen Rider show. I feel like I watched it in a day or two. (It was probably a couple weeks.) I couldn't get enough of it. I don't think it's the perfect show, but it's good at everything. It's the rare Kamen Rider show where I don't think it makes any mistakes. (Okay, maybe the theme song? Ska has not aged well!) Other shows may beat it at certain things, but they all have problems. OOO only problem is that I can't watch more of it right now.
Nothing says peak Kamen Rider crossover like a bunch of Riders sitting on their bikes (Because Kamen Riders Ride Bikes) and spouting their catchphrases at the same time, including OOO who they come up with a catchphrase for him to use that's not "Ah, Seiyaaaaaah...." |
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