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10-14-2023, 03:28 PM | #17611 |
I have a problematic type
Join Date: Jan 2012
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I know I've said this before, but one of my very favorite parts of Saber is that when Kento comes back as Calibur, Touma confronts him about it, asks him what he's doing, and Kento actually explains his entire plan and the reasoning behind it. I've gotten so used to Kamen Rider characters playing variations of "I don't have to explain myself to you" or "A person like you would never understand" that I was caught completely off guard by an actual open and honest conversation. It was such a refreshing change of pace.
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10-29-2023, 09:03 PM | #17612 |
Stronger Than You
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nyet
Posts: 25,327
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Kousei Amano portraying a hero challenge: Literally impossible.
Also, what the fuck is going on in Outsiders? Because even when I think I'm following the plot, turns out I'm not
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10-30-2023, 01:11 PM | #17613 |
Henshin Heaven
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Inside a Hyper Battle Video, help.
Posts: 1,243
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I have something quite unusual to talk about today!
This is the crossover event Senki Zesshou Symphogear X Kamen Rider 555: Another Testament from the Japan-only mobile phone game Symphogear XD Unlimited. Though my Japanese skills are rather poor I still enjoy playing this game for the wide variety of strange scenarios. Normally I wouldn't post about something like this but, well...
The story for this event is pretty much in the vein of a Heisei-era Kamen Rider movie, where it's in an independent universe almost entire disconnected from any existing Kamen Rider or Symphogear storylines. To run through the basics... Humanity has been pushed to the brink of extinction by Orphe-Noise (combining monsters from both series), which turn humans to ash but can also cause them to be reborn as an Orphenoch. However, a small group of humans are pursuing the Rider Gears that supposedly belonged to some saviors so they can fight back... Kanade from Symphogear dies in the struggle to obtain the belts but was unable to use it successfully, though Hibiki was able to use the Kaixa Gear (she probably died and become an Orphenoch but it isn't made explicit). Tsubasa is all torn up about it but get over it at lightspeed. The commander from Symphogear shows up as an Orphenoch and they have to kill him, but not before he regains his humanity and Tsubasa inherits the Delta Gear from him. They go to fight the Orphenoch King (who is Fudo Kazanari from Symphogear, bitter at humanity for rejecting him after trying to defend his country during wartime), have to fight Kanade who it turns out was reborn as an Orphenoch herself and is using the Faiz Gear. Snap her out of it, but can't beat the Orphenoch King who declares he was the one who spread the rumor about the belts being using by the saviors all along. Then some version of Takumi and Kusaka show up after being summoned from another universe (in probably the most amusing moment of the whole event, the Symphogear characters are rather taken aback by the Faiz cast's crass personalities) and together they beat down the Orphenoch King in a giant stadium and the world is saved. So uh... let's not beat around the bush, this is basically a crappy rehash of elements from both Paradise Lost and Symphogear Season 1. I think the thing that got to me the most with this story was how thinly spread everything felt. The plot moved extremely rapidly and nothing was given enough attention for me to feel anything besides a vague sense of ennui. I know mobile game scenarios aren't exactly something Inoue is used to working with, but I got nothing out of this as a fan of either Faiz of Symphogear. Then we also run into the additional issue one often sees with Inoue. The man usually pretty terrible as writing characters that are not his own. XDU itself is already a secondary piece of media, which means it can feel "off" compared to the anime source material. But you can tell that many of the normal writers are serious fans of the series who delve into niche details (and even references to the original creator's other works) and are usually thoughtful about tone and characterization. Inoue feels like at BEST he watched the season 1 of Symphogear and wasn't too keen on it, even that might be giving him too much credit. Everything about it just felt "wrong", even with the alternate universe excuse. I do feel like this kind of crossover could have worked, but honestly not with Inoue heading it. If anything I wish the scenario had just gone totally off the rails and had Hibiki get possessed by Kusaka's ghost and go around choking people and telling them to kill themselves and it turns out no one in Faiz could communicate because the Curse of Balal and we have to destroy the moon to Takumi can finally spit out what he wants to say. That being said... I do think it is EXTREMELY funny that this whole thing happened at all. I also think it's exceedingly amusing the gave Hibiki a Kaixa Gear (polar opposite personalities right there), a nod to Hibiki's birthday being Kaixa day along with the fact that her voice actor, Aoi Yuki, played child Mari in Faiz.
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11-02-2023, 05:37 AM | #17614 |
Super Lawyer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Plot? What plot? I can safely say that no one will ever understand "the plot" in Outsiders, including the writers themselves.
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11-05-2023, 07:30 AM | #17615 |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 1,947
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Well, after a quick look at Gotchard vs Legend, I can say that, in addition to the expected references to Decade, there are plenty of references to Zi-O.
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11-05-2023, 03:31 PM | #17616 |
Warrior of Delusions!
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Wait, you dont know either?
Posts: 5,826
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I caught up on Outsiders, Episodes 3 and 4! And yeah... I have no clue what is happening! It's fun, but I can't follow character motivations at all. Tachibana is willing to wipe out humainity because... reasons? Gold Drive is a comedian now? And as much as they keep referecing all these Outsiders, I'm not sure they've teamed up once.
Garren King Form slaps though.
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11-05-2023, 05:48 PM | #17617 |
Comin' up OOOs!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: A place where imports are impossible to find, NY
Posts: 2,431
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Finished Outsiders. Absolutely loved it.
The idea of an ultimate force of good being created with the support of all riders behind it only for it to come to the logical conclusion that the only way to truly eradicate evil is to use the powers of the riders to essentially wipe humanity from the board is a very fitting plot given a lot of the characters involved with it: riders who aren't human yet found humanity in some way. Framing it as ultimate good in Zein vs ultimate evil with Ark is also a smart way to frame it in a more simplistic manner. Foundation X is conjuring a force to counteract Zein, Tachibana and Board along with other organizations are banding together to get Zein at peak performance without realizing just what it's capable of. Can't wait to see Kuroto fold back into things, as well as what they have planned for George.
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11-06-2023, 01:52 AM | #17618 |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
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My main problem with the latest episode of The Outsiders: the unkillability of all the characters. Garren gets a finisher from Horobi, Brain gets a finisher from Zein, Horobi gets a finisher from King Garren. And no one was even seriously injured. Even Banjo survived, albeit inside the network. After the cool introduction of Zein in the last episode, this is more like a sandbox game or boring 30th episodes when you need to stall for time and the writer is not allowed to kill anyone. I mean, what the hell? Most of the characters have already come to life more than once. Finish them off now, and then bring them back in the finale.
I also miss Asakura and Desast. Quote:
Going back to Zein, it seems obvious to me that he was meant to be the villain. He is too powerful and too alien for the viewer to empathize with him. It is possible, however, that he will be able to repent before being destroyed and save everyone by sacrificing himself, but this is not certain. |
11-14-2023, 05:26 PM | #17619 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 908
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I am now finally back with watching Kamen Rider Wizard via its summer movie and episodes 40 and 41.
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11-15-2023, 08:58 AM | #17620 |
Standing By
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 2,108
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What did you think about the surprise return of Mayu as Kamen Rider Mage?
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