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05-14-2021, 01:12 AM | #71 |
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To answer your question about mooks in toku, I think it very much depends on what the show is using them for.
In shows with large numbers of heroes who reliably work together, I figure you kind of need mooks just so that the whole team has someone to fight without spending the whole battle just ganging up on the main monster. I mean, multiple heroes fighting the same monster is a good very literal representation of the power of friendship/teamwork/trust/etc., and you can justify it by saying the monster is that much more powerful that the heroes need to team up to have a chance of defeating it, and no one said heroes have to always fight fair anyway, but there's still only so far you can stretch 5-on-1 fights before they just look boringly one-sided. In shows with small numbers of heroes, or where the heroes aren't always even on the same side let alone working as a team, it gets more complicated. Having a lone warrior cutting down a whole horde of weak enemies is a great way to show off how cool the hero is, but it can easily devolve into just padding out the fight scenes. Personally, I like it best when the mooks have some relevance to the plot besides just being there, like if instead of accompanying every monster they only show up for major villains or evil organizations. That way, even if the mooks are still no threat themselves, their presence raises the stakes because it indicates a greater evil has gotten involved.
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05-14-2021, 02:17 AM | #72 |
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That a totally fare respone so on that note how do you think Legend Hero handles mooks?
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05-14-2021, 11:48 AM | #73 |
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Episode 19 "Bodyguard Rukus" & Episode 20 Butterfly's Dream"
What started as a very standard episode in 19 ramps up to be one of the most action-packed and emotionally charging episodes yet. Let’s get the big one out of the way Gongsan elimination the scene itself is well handled allowing both actors to shine, and while her tenure wasn’t as inclusive as I would’ve liked her presence will be missed. I’m especially excited about how her character and interaction are going to be moving onwards. It’s a similar situation to He Jin but Gongsan is the main character whereas he was the first boss so to speak. Cao Cao showing up was expected as this was a crime and one that was publically known. Honestly, I think handled the twist well because on one hand, they did lean very hard towards the manager but’s it honestly convey to me that yeah it was her. Lina was a total tool from beginning to end and I think the show has done a nice job giving us a balance of sympathetic and unsympathetic villains. Lu Bu coming back is great I knew the way we never fully got a confirmation of the Piece dying was going to pay off. How this will affect Cao Cao in the future remains to be seen. Also always love it when a character their friend’s powers especially if a said character died (ok Gongsan isn’t dead but it is pretty much treated to such an extent.) Also Zhang Jue and the Dark Pentagram the plot thickens there.
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05-14-2021, 04:03 PM | #74 |
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This was really great. I saw the twist coming due to seeing similar ones in other shows, but the way it was executed was still done well. I'm also really sad that Gongsun Zan isn't going to stay as our "Secondary Rider" as I felt her being one helped to make the show really unique. But, Cao Cao's' character arc has been really well handled so far so I suppose having him as our Secondary isn't so bad. I also wonder if he'll be getting a third Hero Piece at some point, considering that now both Liu Bei and Sun Ce have three.
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05-14-2021, 11:05 PM | #75 |
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Yeah it does sucks to lose her however the show isn't keeping things complacent and parts are always moving in this show. And I do truly believes this isn't the end.
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05-14-2021, 11:06 PM | #76 |
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Episode 21 "Rainbow Event"
Much like He Jin before Gongsan Zan leaves the show but she promises to return one day and I can’t wait for that for her presence will be sorely missed. Liu Bei gets sorely depressed from this but our lovable angel Xu Shu comes in a surprisingly whips up a fanciful dish after exploding the kitchen lol. This cheers up Liu Bei and with that, the Rainbow Event has begun. This allows Legend Heroes with 2 or more Hero Pieces to enter a test to gain the assistance of an angel. Naturally, Liu Bei chooses Xu Shu. We finally get to see the Mother Computer who learn that every 300 years a Dream Battle takes place so that the Royal Seal which protects Heaven and Earth regains its energy. Which is the strongest human dream in exchange to gain the user’s wish. As well as being introduced to the final main angel Zhuge Liang. Who’s apathetic towards the Dream Battle seeing that the angels are nothing more than tools to be discarded once the battle is over. Zhang Liang manages to put down Xu Shu into quitting but also pretends that she doesn’t want to break her promise to Liu Bei. So she disguises Zhang Liang as a warlord and tells Liu Bei to just go. However, before Liu Bei goes he gives that cookie recipe Xu Shu loves to Zhang Liang as a sign of their bond and to make Xu Shu happy which warms my heart. Zhang Jue arrives into heaven and decides this event can happen with his plans and summons an army of Tao Troopers to attack everybody. Liu Bei defends Xu Shu and he comments on how he’s become stronger, confined, and even has a friend with the Hero Pieces and it’s all thanks to her Liu Bei doesn’t care about power or abilities but Xu Shu herself. In the end, we see Sima Yi partnered with Cao Cao, Zhou Yu with Sun Ce, and of course Liu Bei and Xu Shu. (I honestly wished Cao Cao and Sun Ce were in this episode more as we only see them at the end of the episode kinda makes this whole event feel a little empty) And Zhang Liang all by himself contemplating Xu Shu joining the “meaningless battle” Xu Shu has now been bumped up to the main girl status that Gongsun Zan is gone. The episode reveals a lot about the show’s lore, introducing a new element to the Dream battle of the angels actively fighting on behalf of their new warlords and in general, finally give Xu Shu some much-needed focus. Being left out of the spotlight outside of the first episode and for exposition. Focusing on her relationship with Liu Bei how they both lift each other in trying times. And the void left behind by Gongsan Zan’s temporary leave I’ll happily take Xu Shu and her new status as Liu Bei angel from now on.
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05-15-2021, 08:15 PM | #77 |
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I felt so many emotions during this episode. While it's only shown for a few minutes, let's just say that Liu Bei's' bout of depression over his friend leaving is something I could definitely connect with. Ontop of that, the opening scene with the Mother Computer does a great job with its atmosphere, being appropriately mysterious. Not to mention the great comedic moments like Xu Shu blowing up the kitchen, and you have a recipe for an episode that I enjoyed a whole lot.
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05-15-2021, 09:38 PM | #78 |
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Fell behind for a bit there, but I'm all caught up to thread again at the moment. I guess it's probably not even worth mentioning that I greatly enjoyed these five episodes with this show's track record, but well, there you go. The big thought I kept coming back to all throughout 17-20 was just how nice it was to see the heavy emphasis on Liu Bei and Gongsun Zan as a duo, because I really like those two together. They have this perfect dynamic where his kindness balances out her aggression while her intelligence balances out his foolishness, and I would watch a million plots about them scrambling to scrape together the cash to keep the lights on.
They're a pair that's endlessly fun to watch, so, uh, of course, when I got far enough into 20, it kinda quickly became apparent why the show was shining such a spotlight on all this! I'm sort of mixed on that plotting decision, but I can definitely see the merit in it, since removing THE major source of support for Liu Bei, even temporarily, is naturally going to make room for him to grow as a hero and all that, something nicely touched upon in 21 when we see him talking about how far he's already come from way back in the very beginning. Having Liu Bei take up her powers is the kind of plot point I am way into, as well, so all of the things I have misgivings with at the moment are more a matter of needing to see where the show is going with everything. Sun Ce in particular is a bit of a question mark for me right now; he's got a fun enough boisterous personality going on, but he's also a thin enough character that it's currently hard to see him being a third pillar for the show alongside Liu Bei and Cao Cao, even with his own set of supporting characters clearly set up for future drama with him.
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05-26-2021, 09:50 PM | #79 |
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Episode 22 "We Need an Angel"
The first opponents the new duo fights is none other than the Flyquitos and can I just say how brilliant this move was. Like no seriously these two were introduced as a means for Liu Bei and Gongzan Sun to iron out their teamwork. They symbolize duos in this show so for the new duoof Liu Bei and Xu Shu to be their first opponents is just a stroke of genius on the writers part. And to continue the Liu Bei being best character on the show he preps for the upcoming celebration of Xu Shu being permanently part of the team, through some fun sheingans that show Xu SHu nativity she gets captured by the Flyquitos who tell bold faced lies in order to get her to trust them and “become their angels” that doesn't really work and after a while Liu Bei does find them a fight ensues and Liu Bei wins however it turns out during the FInal battle the angels go inside the machines and become part of it! This episode much like 7-8 is all about teamwork and seeing the further mechanics of how Angels and Legend Heroes interact. A simple episode that is light on plot but that's ok as the show has gotten heavy and the show has struck a balance of story episodes as well as some simple episodic pens that still do have appointments in regard to character development and relationship. To me this is like a better version of episodre7-8 not that they were bad just really dragged on. This bring one episode was a delightful breather that entirely focus on pre-establish characters that were already invested in.
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05-27-2021, 07:12 AM | #80 |
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Man, real missed opportunity by not calling this one "Send Us An Angel."
Anyway, this was another really fun one, and actually got us some nice development for both Flyquito and Xu Shu. It did make me realize though that we actually haven't gotten to know Flyquito's' Hero Pieces at all yet. Kinda weird, considering every other Hero Piece in the show so far has been shown off. Hopefully that'll change in a future episode.
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