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06-27-2016, 12:21 PM | #21 |
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It's okay to not like Tsuruhime, but you're trying to create excuses.
She's the youngest at 17. However, you're missing that she and Jiraiya are the only members to take being a Kakuranger seriously for the first 25 episodes. Seikai, Saizou, and yes, even Sasuke, are just being jackasses (Sasuke a little less so, but he did have his moments of just complete childishness) until the stakes get raised and they realize they have to start acting like adults, too. She doesn't fit the role? You must not have watched the series, because she was the only member actually willing to put her big boy pants on and prioritize defeating Yokai instead of getting laid (Jiraiya was also serious, but he was too focused on his own problems, and he couldn't speak Japanese for, like, 5 episodes). Tsuruhime was literally made for the role as leader, but you're using superficial reasons to make her seem unjustified ("She's too young!" "She's a she!" "She didn't bumble into traps!" "She's not Sasuke!"). You don't have to like Tsuruhime or Kakuranger. But you're trying to take minor and menial pieces and blow them up, as well as blatantly and clearly forgetting (Or intentionally) leaving out major details to justify your reasoning. Tsuruhime was the perfect leader for the Kakurangers because until episode 20, she was the only fucking member who even wanted to be there.
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06-27-2016, 06:18 PM | #22 |
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Actually, being too young is a valid reason especially when you have someone like Sasuke in your team. She was the strategist? Sasuke is the one who keeps coming up with ideas on backup plans and how to solve the problem. The advantage Tsuruhime had over him was she was born a Tsuruhime.
I guess you can say Tsuruhime is the leader by name but Sasuke is the real leader in the background. That's probably why I never saw her as a convincing leader. |
06-28-2016, 09:02 AM | #23 |
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06-28-2016, 09:42 AM | #24 |
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But that doesn’t mean I take offense at gentlemen that don’t fit the male stereotype or have “feminine” traits. Just because a man “needs saving” doesn’t make me any less of a woman, I feel. Likewise, a woman being the “saviour” doesn’t and shouldn’t make you any less of a man. Why can’t I, for example, defend/ save myself just because I’m a woman? Anyway, have you considered watching Go-Busters?
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06-28-2016, 10:10 AM | #25 |
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And I’m a self-respecting f e m a l e who is proud of her f e m i n i n i t y .
But that doesn’t mean I take offense at gentlemen that don’t fit the male stereotype or have “feminine” traits. Just because a man “needs saving” doesn’t make me any less of a woman, I feel. Likewise, a woman being the “saviour” doesn’t and shouldn’t make you any less of a man. Why can’t I, for example, defend/ save myself just because I’m a woman? Anyway, have you considered watching Go-Busters? Did that all sound coherent and cohesive? Or am I just rambling?
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06-28-2016, 06:09 PM | #26 |
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It's weird that you guys are having big reactions when I say I don't like male damsels yet you overlooked the poster with darth vader avatar when he said he doesn't like female damsels in the "8 Things Worst About Sentai and Kamen Rider" thread. Where did the double standard came from?
@Kamen Rider Lolita Yeah. I've been planning to watch Go Busters for a long time now but kept getting put on hold because something better came to mind. Gingaman, Shinkenger, now one of those four. What's in Go Busters? @Suzu Well, I never really saw MagiRed as leader. It was mentioned in one episode but the responsibility was distributed more evenly if you ask me. I didn't have a problem with it because no one mentioned it past that episode. Heck, I think it was mentioned only once or twice throughout the series? Unlike NinjaWhite. Last edited by LiamLee; 06-28-2016 at 06:12 PM.. |
06-28-2016, 07:31 PM | #27 |
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Sasuke, Saizou, and Seikai stumbled into their roles at the beginning of the season. Jiraiya was trained in martial arts by his dad and the his adoptive father, but he was not trained to be a Kakuranger. That is why they are less experienced despite being older. It's really not that hard. Quote:
It's weird that you guys are having big reactions when I say I don't like male damsels yet you overlooked the poster with darth vader avatar when he said he doesn't like female damsels in the "8 Things Worst About Sentai and Kamen Rider" thread. Where did the double standard came from?
FEMALE DAMSELS IN DISTRESS ARE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY PRESENT WOMEN AS HELPLESS OBJECTS WHO CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. THE TROPE PRESENTS WOMEN AS PRIZES TO BE WON, NOT HUMAN BEINGS. IN THE REAL WORLD, WOMEN ARE OBJECTIFIED TO A DANGEROUS DEGREE. DEPICTING THIS IN MEDIA PERPETUATES A CYCLE OF OBJECTIFICATION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. MEN ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THIS LEVEL OF OBJECTIFICATION IN REAL LIFE, SO IT'S NOT AS BIG A PROBLEM TO PRESENT THEM THIS WAY IN MEDIA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE MEN HAD NEVER EVER BEEN SERIOUSLY PRESENTED AS DAMSELS IN DISTRESS UNTIL ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. THERE'S A REASON THE TROPE IS CALLED A "DAMSEL" IN DISTRESS. DAMSELS ARE WOMEN, BY DEFINITION. BUT JUST BECAUSE MALE "DAMSELS" IN DISTRESS AREN'T AS BIG OF A PROBLEM DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE NOT A PROBLEM. IT IS A DEHUMANIZING TROPE REGARDLESS OF THE GENDER. IT IS LAZY AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED BY EVERY WRITER. Moderators, how much longer are you guys gonna let this guy spew this misogynistic garbage? He has hijacked 4 threads with this anti-women crap now, and he's not stopping. Literally every one of his 22 posts has included some sort of hateful rhetoric. Something has to be done. Last edited by Sentai Tamashii; 06-29-2016 at 10:47 AM.. Reason: Deleted name calling |
06-29-2016, 01:10 AM | #28 |
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Okay, everyone in this thread needs to calm down and stop right now.
LiamLee, I don't know if you're being blissfully naive or purposely obstinate but you need to take a long look at your posts. Everyone complaint you give about a show is ultimately coming down to female characters not fitting whatever tiny checklist you seem to feel they should be, and that is earning you a reputation here. Having a problem with female characters being written as "damsels in distress" over generations of writing is not the same as the odd male character being written that way, especially when male characters ALWAYS outnumber females on Super Sentai and in media in general. I've warned you once to start expressing your posts in a less derogatory way, and I'm giving you that warning again. The rest of you, especially those who've been goading this conversation since the very beginning of the thread, need to remember that each user's post has a "report" button underneath it. If you feel that a post or user needs mod action, then report it and the moderator/admin staff will look at it accordingly.
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06-29-2016, 09:03 AM | #29 |
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I believe everything I've written so far is my opinion regarding certain characters or my thoughts regarding a subject matter Mr. Mod. You are free to site an example post of mine wherein I said anything derogatory. I challenge you. I think you might mean the damsels? I'll talk about that in another paragraph. If there is anything else, I challenge you. I'm asking you because you seem like a reasonable person.
If you think derogatory means people getting offended because of their personal biases and I have to end my free speech because of that, then you may ban me. I don't want to be associated with a website that hates opinions that doesn't match their own. But please keep in mind. I will continue posting in other websites and I will never change my opinion just because someone else does not like it. Kamen Rider Lucha called me a misogynist and dumb and that's not derogatory to you. Stating my opinion is. I know it was a reaction to what I said (because he hates my opinion) but I never even once called people or a group of people names. And I'm not complaining. I posted an opinion, someone reacted so I reacted back. And lastly, regarding this: Quote:
Having a problem with female characters being written as "damsels in distress" over generations of writing is not the same as the odd male character being written that way
More often than not, disposable characters (dying for no reason) are male especially in hollywood. 1) Do people complaining about female characters getting killed off all the time has no right to do it because historically, that has always been a male role? 2) Sentai has a lot of male character deaths and only one female (and that was only due to the actress leaving), if Sentai will kill off a lot of female characters in the future, do people have no right to dislike it especially compared to the male character deaths? Last edited by LiamLee; 06-29-2016 at 09:08 AM.. |
06-29-2016, 10:42 AM | #30 |
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I believe this has gone on enough. Liam's opinion, however unpopular, is his opinion, and his right to state it. Any member feel offended by his opinions can counter as long as it's in a civilized manner, members can also choose to mute Liam by adding him to the ignore list if deemed necessary. Any trolling, baiting, name calling, harrassing from either side will receive infractions according to our rules. Consider this a warning, move on with the topic or this thread will be closed.
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