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07-22-2021, 11:44 AM | #391 |
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Robert Downey Jr. Did blackface in tropic thunder in 2008 and then went on to star in Iron Man later that year. No one place, or even many institutions have ever really been very consistent in how they deal with these things, and this is part of why people are trying to speak up about them now, to demand that. If KR was an American property I would be more likely to boycott it, but since I wont be giving any money to TOEI for this, I just hope that they will change the VA, its not hard, and the guy seems like an ass, to me. Not someone kids should be looking up to.
I understand that many people in Japan haven't quite caught up with race politics elsewhere, as evidenced by the black face scene with KR Beast in Wizard, and many other occurrences in Japanese media, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't hope they catch up. ALSO Subaru Kimura is half German, spent 7 adult years in Germany, and has likely travelled abroad a bit, I get the feeling he may have heard that blackface is bad at some point before he posted it online, but maybe I'm wrong. It would help if he took responsibility but it seems he hasn't. EDIT: I also agree that if TOEI is trying to make KR more international (and I agree it seems they are) then they REALLY need to rethink this. Its not something western audiences will take lightly. |
07-22-2021, 12:02 PM | #392 |
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So basically Ryuki, if Dragreder was a Rider. Interesting concept. inb4 the Rider is a Sentai meme starts again, haha. The name Revice turns out to be a portmanteau of the two Primary Riders, Revi and Vice. So they're collectively known as Revice. Vice doesn't look much like a Rider, but hey, if Saikou and Lazer pass as Riders, then sure, why not!
I wonder if they'll primarily use dual finishers and double Rider Kicks or if Revi will still get most of the Finishers. |
07-22-2021, 12:19 PM | #393 |
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Can’t lie, this has got me so down. By far the most I’ve been excited for KR in a while and then it turns out the VA of one of the main leads who I’ll be hearing all the time is a horrible person. This fuckin sucks
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07-22-2021, 12:27 PM | #394 |
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That would make a lot of sense if they had a final form like Cross-ZBuild.
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07-22-2021, 12:34 PM | #395 |
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About the siblings thing, I have a feeling that the Igarashi family (parents) own an onsen business (hence the onsen scene in superhero senki) but the parents have died (hence the cast mentioning siblings but no cast for Ikki’s parents announced yet. I can imagine a conversation in which he was fighting as Kamen Rider Revi(ce) while his siblings take care of the onsen business and when he goes home his siblings be like, “bro where have you been? We have been working our asses off running the business and you’re just gone like this?!” Lol just my imagination tho…
I'm really curious about the family part. That's something we never really tackled as the main subject of a series right ? We had families before, and some of them at the center of the show (Den-O ? Ganmas in Ghost, etc...) but we never really had a show centered around a family and them doing stuff all together. I wonder if we could have a show about family members fighting together but also against each other (of course for the noble cause of protecting the other members), everyone making a pact with the devil but one is taking it to far or extreme to protect the family. |
07-22-2021, 12:35 PM | #396 |
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This is not a good look for Toei if they are trying to make Kamen Rider more popular outside of Asia.
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07-22-2021, 12:45 PM | #397 |
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Now even if the show is great in every other aspect his presence will just add the inescapable sense of discomfort for me, and I won't feel right personally buying any merch, it's really disheartening |
07-22-2021, 12:51 PM | #398 |
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I think the difference between the two is that Tropic Thunder was done to make fun of black face and why it was bad similar to what Spike Lee did Bamboozled with back in 2000. Meanwhile, Subaru Kimura seems to be aware on what he is doing and does not care. Hopefully, he will say sorry for all of this.
This is not a good look for Toei if they are trying to make Kamen Rider more popular outside of Asia. Like I said previously, there has been at LEAST 1 case of blackface within KR itself, in Wizard, when Beast walks out of an explosion or fire and suddenly is painted black and has an Afro. I didn't stop watching, but i won't stop talking about it when its relevant. There is an ongoing issue with race relations in japan that will only become more prevalent as their birthrate declines steeply and they become more of a melting pot in order to maintain their economy. This is not news, its been talked about for years, and as a cultural touchstone I think it is important that KR and Sentai take the lead on these issues. I am optimistic, as in Zero-One there were a few plot points that I believe were a commentary on Police Violence against marginalized groups, with the HumaGear filling the role of Real life marginalized groups. |
07-22-2021, 12:55 PM | #399 |
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Man, this sucks… I was genuinely super excited for this season. Well, It’s not like I’m giving Toei money for this, so while this is still super bad and I’m not happy about it, at least… Actually I have no idea how to wrap this up.
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07-22-2021, 01:02 PM | #400 |
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Americans don't give Toei any money for watching Rider and recently pissed them off by flagrantly talking about fansubs @ official Twitter accounts.
Blackface is wrong. However it will literally never come up as the person is only voice acting. I also don't think a kids show that's primarily meant to sell kids toys is the platform to explain to average Japanese people why blackface is offensive. It's also wrong to lay blame to the franchise for an actors mistake that he did while he wasn't under any contract with the franchise. |
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