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06-14-2022, 03:02 PM | #221 |
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06-14-2022, 06:35 PM | #223 |
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The katakana for KR Geats is ギーツ, or "giitsu." The katakana for the Swedish Geats is ギース, or "giisu." Those are two totally different words. In English it would be like saying that because internet and internal are spelled similarly, they can be used interchangeably. Which, I'm sure you'd agree, is ridiculous. It's far more likely that Geats/ギーツ is a portmanteau of two English words, like "geek" and "beats." Or maybe it's a portmanteau of a Japanese word and an English word, like "gin" (silver) and "cheats." Like... maybe Geats wears a karate gi-inspired suit and transforms using meats. Even that ridiculous notion is more likely than Geats referring to a Scandinavian myth that no Japanese five year-old has ever heard of or would ever care about in a million years. I'm simply not buying the Beowolf thing. It is clearly the product of fans searching "geats" in English Google, seeing that the word relates to Beowolf's Swedish clan as literally the first hit, and then drawing the laziest possible conclusion that this Rider must be Beowolf-themed. Now, if it turns out that I'm wrong, then I will happily eat crow. But I've been around in Tokusatsu fandom long enough to have seen this exact same cycle play out every single time a Sentai or a Kamen Rider show has a not-easily-discernable title. And what is almost certain to happen is that "Geats" will mean something far less cool and much weirder than Beowolf, and fans will feel betrayed because they had all these badass ideas for a Beowolf Rider, and it will sour the perception of the show before it's ever released. Mark my words. This happens pretty much every year. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 06-14-2022 at 06:41 PM.. |
06-14-2022, 09:13 PM | #224 |
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Battle Royale? Again?
Now I'm waiting for some concrete evidence, so I'm not going to get too attached to these rumors. That said, if this was (in the unlikely scenario) what Geats was going to be, I feel like the battle royale premise feels generic compared to Ryuki, Gaim, even Ex-Aid, as it would have to do more than just "battle royale that has a dark secret" to be convincing. I also believe the Build angle draws from the supposed mockup of the helmet, and while I wouldn't be opposed to that style, it is really similar to Saber, in both design and theme. The "returning character" is a detail I would honestly love to see, though it lines up to what I heard some people mentioning about riding (heh) Sentai's trail with DonBrothers. Whether it happens or not, so long as it's done well, I wouldn't mind it. On that note, the Legend Rider thing isn't necessarily off the table, since the 50th Anniversary celebrations will be going on until Shin Kamen Rider in 2023, so it wouldn't surprise me if early Reiwa ends up like New Generation Ultra, or what Sentai might be doing with doing Legend Sentai until their 50th Anniversary. Now, if this does end up being what Geats is, then I'll talk more about it, but for now, I'm going to wait for Toei to surprise us (remember Ryusoulger?). |
06-14-2022, 10:14 PM | #225 |
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06-14-2022, 11:21 PM | #226 |
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The katakana for Kiva and Kiba are exactly the same, キバ. There isn't really a "v" sound in Japanese, so it's usually substituted with a "b" sound. It was only the stylized English spelling that was modified, but not even -- kiva is still a valid transliteration of キバ.
The katakana for KR Geats is ギーツ, or "giitsu." The katakana for the Swedish Geats is ギース, or "giisu." Those are two totally different words. In English it would be like saying that because internet and internal are spelled similarly, they can be used interchangeably. Which, I'm sure you'd agree, is ridiculous. It's far more likely that Geats/ギーツ is a portmanteau of two English words, like "geek" and "beats." Or maybe it's a portmanteau of a Japanese word and an English word, like "gin" (silver) and "cheats." Like... maybe Geats wears a karate gi-inspired suit and transforms using meats. Even that ridiculous notion is more likely than Geats referring to a Scandinavian myth that no Japanese five year-old has ever heard of or would ever care about in a million years. I'm simply not buying the Beowolf thing. It is clearly the product of fans searching "geats" in English Google, seeing that the word relates to Beowolf's Swedish clan as literally the first hit, and then drawing the laziest possible conclusion that this Rider must be Beowolf-themed. Now, if it turns out that I'm wrong, then I will happily eat crow. But I've been around in Tokusatsu fandom long enough to have seen this exact same cycle play out every single time a Sentai or a Kamen Rider show has a not-easily-discernable title. And what is almost certain to happen is that "Geats" will mean something far less cool and much weirder than Beowolf, and fans will feel betrayed because they had all these badass ideas for a Beowolf Rider, and it will sour the perception of the show before it's ever released. Mark my words. This happens pretty much every year. I feel like I've been losing my mind seeing so many people buy into the Beowulf angle, when it has no backing at all and is a theory solely pitched by western fans Last edited by TheJaz; 06-14-2022 at 11:23 PM.. |
06-14-2022, 11:46 PM | #227 |
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After Zi-O's spine breaking attempt to explain Geiz = Gates, I already know this Beowulf angle ain't happening
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06-15-2022, 12:58 AM | #228 |
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I'm simply not buying the Beowolf thing. It is clearly the product of fans searching "geats" in English Google, seeing that the word relates to Beowolf's Swedish clan as literally the first hit, and then drawing the laziest possible conclusion that this Rider must be Beowolf-themed.
But I've been around in Tokusatsu fandom long enough to have seen this exact same cycle play out every single time a Sentai or a Kamen Rider show has a not-easily-discernable title. And what is almost certain to happen is that "Geats" will mean something far less cool and much weirder than Beowolf, and fans will feel betrayed because they had all these badass ideas for a Beowolf Rider, and it will sour the perception of the show before it's ever released. Mark my words. This happens pretty much every year. Last edited by Mesnick; 06-15-2022 at 07:51 AM.. |
06-15-2022, 05:41 AM | #229 |
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The guy behind this nonsense was bragging today on 4ch about how people fell for it. It’s disheartening to see known figures in the rumor community like Matt Hunt fall for such blatant nonsense
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06-15-2022, 05:50 AM | #230 |
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The katakana for Kiva and Kiba are exactly the same, キバ. There isn't really a "v" sound in Japanese, so it's usually substituted with a "b" sound. It was only the stylized English spelling that was modified, but not even -- kiva is still a valid transliteration of キバ.
The katakana for KR Geats is ギーツ, or "giitsu." The katakana for the Swedish Geats is ギース, or "giisu." Those are two totally different words. In English it would be like saying that because internet and internal are spelled similarly, they can be used interchangeably. Which, I'm sure you'd agree, is ridiculous. It's far more likely that Geats/ギーツ is a portmanteau of two English words, like "geek" and "beats." Or maybe it's a portmanteau of a Japanese word and an English word, like "gin" (silver) and "cheats." Like... maybe Geats wears a karate gi-inspired suit and transforms using meats. Even that ridiculous notion is more likely than Geats referring to a Scandinavian myth that no Japanese five year-old has ever heard of or would ever care about in a million years. I'm simply not buying the Beowolf thing. It is clearly the product of fans searching "geats" in English Google, seeing that the word relates to Beowolf's Swedish clan as literally the first hit, and then drawing the laziest possible conclusion that this Rider must be Beowolf-themed. Now, if it turns out that I'm wrong, then I will happily eat crow. But I've been around in Tokusatsu fandom long enough to have seen this exact same cycle play out every single time a Sentai or a Kamen Rider show has a not-easily-discernable title. And what is almost certain to happen is that "Geats" will mean something far less cool and much weirder than Beowolf, and fans will feel betrayed because they had all these badass ideas for a Beowolf Rider, and it will sour the perception of the show before it's ever released. Mark my words. This happens pretty much every year. |
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