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04-01-2022, 05:53 PM | #491 |
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Yeah, a lot of Toei's more recent projects have to really rush to fit in all the collectible gimmick merch Bandai wants shilled. Just kinda the nature of being merchandise-driven, unfortunately. Personally, I thought Shinobi managed to handle it in a way that didn't at all detract from the quality of the story, but we'll see how you feel by the time you finish the series, Die!
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04-01-2022, 10:44 PM | #492 |
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The other two are a bit more subtle, though, so I'm not surprised if you didn't pick up on them. The dump truck is the kind used for large scale mining operations, which is an homage to the Rider Quarry and all of the episodes filmed there. And finally, the red robot pilots the mecha from a chair, which is likewise a nod to a common Rider environment, namely the many sit-down dining establishments seen over the years. Last edited by Switchblade; 04-01-2022 at 10:50 PM.. |
04-01-2022, 11:09 PM | #493 |
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It may seem that way, but that was all part of the general tribute to the Heisei era that Zi-O was doing. Each part of the giant mecha refers to a different Rider show. Obviously, the dragon and train are references to Ryuki and Den-O, respectively. The dog, meanwhile, is Chaco from Faiz; it's not clearly stated in the dialogue, to be fair, but it's basically the entire premise of the show's opening theme, ?Boku wa Chaco-kun? (I assume your fansubs didn't translate the lyrics).
The other two are a bit more subtle, though, so I'm not surprised if you didn't pick up on them. The dump truck is the kind used for large scale mining operations, which is an homage to the Rider Quarry and all of the episodes filmed there. And finally, the red robot pilots the mecha from a chair, which is likewise a nod to a common Rider environment, namely the many sit-down dining establishments seen over the years.
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04-02-2022, 12:00 AM | #494 |
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I had the dog as Gills' dog Count Zero, from Agito, but I definitely wouldn't've gotten those other ones. Felt like the dump truck was maybe a reference to Drive's Type Technic, but I'm sure you'd know better about Zi-O's homages, being such a huge fan of the series. Thanks for the info!
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04-02-2022, 12:50 AM | #495 |
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Know what Shinobi reminds me of? Anime. Specifically, the craziness in it. We have the main character who is seemingly goofy on the outside, but is actually a super powerful legendary ninja. We have his little sister who is also really skilled and just so happens to be in love with the titular character's secret identity. She's also the main heroine.
We also have the secondary character who is also romantically interested in the main heroine. It's very anime-esque in my opinion. And I like that about this mini series. But there's something I want to talk about as well. Specifically Kamen Rider Woz's suit. And even more specifically, his Figuarts. Woz's S.H. Figuarts is the last third retail release of a Kamen Rider series. And he's a pretty good release being the last, too. He was $55 upon release, you can find him for as low as 25-30 nowadays, he comes with his weapon along with said weapons' form changes and just overall looks nice. I don't currently have the right pic for it, but most of his green is actually bare plastic. Which means when put under blacklight, he will glow. Pic related below isn't quite that but you can kind of see how the green plastic glows. |
04-02-2022, 05:15 AM | #496 |
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Nice to see someone got some enjoyment out of this series, even if it was April 1st when it went up.
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04-02-2022, 06:16 AM | #497 |
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While the armors themselves can be pretty divisive, the actual transformation sequences themselves are pretty neat.
In particular, I like how starting with Fourze the Armor Times begin to shift towards reflecting that particular Kamen Rider's aesthatics. We have Fourze who flies around as a rocket, then there's Wizard who appears as a magic circle, OOOs who appears as three robot animals, Gaim's which serves as a callback to the Gaim Rider's transformation sequence with the fruit head, and finally Decade that features multiple copies of the suit merging into one. It's honestly a shame that every other Armor Time we've seen so far that's based after a Heisei Rider so far lacks a unique transformation sequence. Kamen Rider Woz and Kamen Rider Shinobi's suits are neat. Especially Shinobi, since it apparently is a kitbash of other Rider suits? I can kind of recognize certain parts that stand out, but otherwise were it not for the Ninja Ziku Driver strapped to Shinobi I would have thought the Rider to be its own original hero independent of Zi-O. Woz's suit is interesting, since technically the only pieces that are changing are the middle strap and chest plate, the shoulder pads, and the helmet. Everything else stays the same, and the result is a Rider that manages to stand out even among the other Zi-O Riders. He really does feel out of place, which is fitting since he comes from an alternate future. Oh, and let's not forget about the Ride Heisaber. A brilliant weapon with once again a great name pun (Heisei plus Saber, genius I know), and a mechanic of being able to perform finishing attacks based after other Heisei Riders. |
04-02-2022, 07:57 AM | #498 |
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The hat?!...is white.
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I don't know if that's how I see him? I think Geiz'z off-putting nature and generally rude vibe isn't from certainty, but from fear. He's someone who is scrambling for a solution to a deep despair: I don't think you hijack a Time Mazine and travel back fifty years to execute a teenage version of Time's Best Worst Overlord because you're sure of what's right and wrong.
Like, his whole weird dynamic with Sougo speaks to a kid who wants to portray immovable righteousness, but is psychologically adrift. I don't think he sees what he's doing as the only logical course of action? Quote:
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I think that?s a fair question? He seems happy. He?s well-adjusted, more or less. His amount of Kamen Rider stuff isn?t out of hand. (Especially considering he?s been collecting for 18 years.) But his love for Kamen Rider, the excitement of its worlds, goes hand-in-hand with him preferring the simplicity of tokusatsu to the complexity of life. He was raised by Kamen Rider to be a good person, but a good person who looks to Kamen Rider for the solutions to his problems.
He does react with glee when meeting Riders, but I don't think that it means being happy in general, sad people can show occassional excitement like that. And other than that, he reacts the same way when he met Tsukuyomi of what's mistaken as a crush... as well as Tsukuyomi not recognizing that name when he refers to her as that; it should provide some foreshadowing regarding her later. Other than that, I'd like to see what'd be Asumu's reaction, when he met more morally ambiguous Kamen Riders (well, Banjou, Kazumi, and especially Gentoku were, but he met them at the end of the series albeit the former 2 wouldn't be harmful for civilians to approach), or especially an evil one. Albeit he does eventually lose faith in Kamen Rider when Kazumin refuses to save him from fodders (but that still shows how depressed he is and it became worse), but him as Another Den-O is still likely a corrupted version of him as per usual Another Riders. I guess it's not what the movie intends or what's intended as a consequence for Ataru, but that quite shows, though it's not that KR was fictional but turned fictional by Tid, fantasy fiction stuff existing can make life harder, that there'd be more danger like those monsters Ataru faced, as Kamen Riders would have superpowered foes too, so it wouldn't be better for those stuff to exist in real life. Quote:
There?s a bunch of plot stuff that didn?t work for me. I think the scene to scene storytelling, especially in the back half, was unnecessarily difficult to follow. Certain elements in the movie felt like they were waiting for a guest appearance that never materialized. (Another Double is nobody, and there?s an awful lot of Kuuga talk for a movie where Kuuga never talks.) If I never see two dozen Riders do finishing moves and pose in Kamen Rider Quarry again, I?ll?ve still seen it too many times in my life.
But I do think that there are some wasted potential or left out stuff (like the Another Double there too, I agree), like Tid's motive for erasing KR, or the missing memories for some of the Riders which'd create some new dynamics between the characters, other than Sougo himself who was a cocky academic ace (as seen in contrast to the ending of him not taking the exam) and then after regaining his memories he reacted surprised to others who also lost their memories. But for others, it was never touched upon of what they're going through or after their memories returned. For Kuuga part, well it's Joe Odagiri not liking toku and leaving it so... I don't think they'd want for Kuuga to appear only like that. Tid is given Kuuga counterpart of "only I can smile" and a shade of Kuuga (Ultimate) Darkness at the end. Otherwise, there can be negative consequences for KR, as a practiccally violent show (for fighting). It can be concerning when kids watch them is that they play into children imagination and fantasy, so children start to fantasize about being vigilantes (of which this practice should be discouraged). And for the lessons or such, the inherent difficulty in those shows is that all sorts of problems have to be resolved by violence and fighting (otherwise those shows won?t have any action elements), and there are helping people psychologically but it can be overshadowed (like it can involve MOTW).
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04-02-2022, 11:03 AM | #499 |
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Woz's S.H. Figuarts is the last third retail release of a Kamen Rider series. And he's a pretty good release being the last, too. He was $55 upon release, you can find him for as low as 25-30 nowadays, he comes with his weapon along with said weapons' form changes and just overall looks nice.
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But Woz doesn't wear a hat! And that hat is sort of wearing Hat Woz!
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04-02-2022, 11:33 AM | #500 |
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