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09-21-2020, 06:19 PM | #21 |
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I'm quickly coming around to this mindset myself? This show made a really strong initial impression, but I straight up adored episodes 3 and 4. This is a series that's clearly heavily inspired by Rider shows like Ryuki, but it's wearing that on its sleeve, and, crucially, after these episodes, I think it really gets why those shows were so cool, and knows how to replicate it more than just superficially. All these weirdoes in colorful costumes fighting is a novelty, but it's only when you take advantage of that setup to tell an interesting story that you get something truly worthwhile. You need all these different characters to complement each other, giving them unique personalities and dynamics where exploring the new characters in turn further informs the audience on the established ones, almost like they're acting as... well, mirrors, I guess. Huh. Anyway, I think they totally nailed that with Mi Zhu and Zhang Fei. Their comic antics in the first part were hilarious for how mundane the things they were having the characters do while transformed were, but the second part ends up doing a great job drawing a contrast between their barely functional relationship and Liu Bei and Guan Yu's mutually supportive camaraderie, demonstrating the value of the latter by showing (and not telling!) how unproductive Mi Zhu's selfish arrogance is. I think that's my main takeaway from the series overall so far. It's very lighthearted and fun, but every single one of these four episodes also had a surprisingly well-constructed narrative behind it that gives things enough weight to where I can also feel invested in what's happening. It's striking a fantastic balance, and if anyone is just reading through this thread out of curiosity without giving the show itself a chance, I'll say it right now — this is a train worth hopping on.
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09-23-2020, 12:37 PM | #22 |
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You know, I'm gonna try to keep up with this thread.
I absolutely loved this show, and I honestly love some of the things they do later on. The mechs are cheap, but I don't mind as much as I used to. And that family dynamic, Fish and Grand? You're gonna love this show to pieces, both of ya. |
09-23-2020, 09:30 PM | #23 |
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You know, I'm gonna try to keep up with this thread.
I absolutely loved this show, and I honestly love some of the things they do later on. The mechs are cheap, but I don't mind as much as I used to. And that family dynamic, Fish and Grand? You're gonna love this show to pieces, both of ya.
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09-26-2020, 05:36 PM | #24 |
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I watched episodes 3 and 4!
I said earlier that in Three Kingdoms inspired works, Zheng Fei and characters associated with him tend to be my favorite, and that still kinda rang true here. The Mi Zhu brothers were absolutely hilarious with their antics, and I liked the arc of Mi Zhu starting off doing things that, while certainly annoying, were ultimately petty, only for the power to go to his head and start doing worse things. I also like the gimmick of our hero being able to gain further power sets as battles continue to be won. That said, given the overall story of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, I imagine he'll only get one, possibly two more, though I won't say who to avoid possible spoilers. Lastly, the cat warrior on the roof at the end of episode 4 had me rolling with just how totally random it was! And I think that's the thing I'm appreciating the most about this show so far: That it's not afraid to have fun with itself while still making an actual story. It's kinda like if Kamen Rider Ryuki were a season of Power Rangers, and I'm all for that!
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10-29-2020, 10:54 PM | #25 |
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Hey guys still alive here look I'll frank I'm not quittng with Legend Heroes just been a really overwhelming month will get right back on it eventually sorry for the radio silence and Happy almost Halloween
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10-29-2020, 10:58 PM | #26 |
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Don't sweat it! Real life has to take priority. We'll all be here when you're ready to talk more about this show!
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12-26-2020, 01:10 AM | #27 |
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Episode 5 "True Successor"
Wow it's a Christmas miracle y’all! I’m back sorry this took so long and If anyone wants a reason for why I was gone so long well... I kid the real reason is simple burnout from being unused to doing these types of things and putting way too much on my plate juggling multiple shows at once. With that I’m back and hopefully on a more consistent schedule. So we return with the mysterious cyber angel group with what seems to be the overall leader plotting something against Liu Bei. As we cut to more shenanigans with the Hero Pieces eventually Gongsun Zan comes to berate Liu Bei in slacking off and letting the dojo fall to the wayside. As Liu Bei is hanging up posters he is confronted by the cat Legend Hero his name is Hua Tuo. His main weapon is acupuncture needles that makes the opponent’s body go numb. Wanting to take Liu Bei Hero Pisces for himself. Claiming that Liu Bei is too weak to give them the amount of energy needed. Hua Tuo leaves and we cut back to the dojo and we see Mater Lu Zhi has returned. 1 And with his return he wants a proper heir and that the other must leave. And so a contest is formed to decide out of the two who would become the heir. Liu Bei wants to just let her be the master and he’ll just learn under her. But Gongsun finds this notion disrespectful to Do-Wan-Kwan. In the ensuing contest the Hero Pieces misguidedly decided to help Liu Bei by cheating. With Gongsun catching them but of course Master Lu Zhu doesn’t believe that. Gongsun storms off and runs into the red tech angel with Hero Piece in his hands… Later on Liu Bei is attacked by a new Legend Hero in cyan with a Unicorn motif. They battle but it is clear that this new one is quite skilled. The pair go into a final fight with the battle ending in a draw revealing the new Legend Hero to be Gongsun. So final thoughts for Episode 5 and things are moving quite nicely. I'm glad that Gongsan Zan is no longer in the dark and is going to be an active part in the show. Especially since it happened quite early on as well. I get the feeling this isn’t going to be resolved so easily in one or two episodes. Rather maybe becoming resolving in the next 10 or so episodes. But either way I’m loving this. (Also Master Lu Zhi is definitely Hua Tuo)
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12-26-2020, 08:51 AM | #28 |
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Eyy, yer back! Glad to see this thread continue!
I think my favorite little touch about this episode is how they make sure that Gongsan Zan doesn't say much when fighting Liu Bei, thus making it very believeable that he wouldn't know it was her. That said, as it's usually been with me when watching these, the highlight was still Liu Bei himself. It was small, but I liked how he was able to push past petty things and kept focus on the people he cared about. From ignoring the broken dishes to feed his Hero Pieces, to realizing how bad he he'd cheated Gongsan Zan without realizing, he's a really sweet guy, and definitely someone you wanna root for.
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12-26-2020, 11:04 PM | #29 |
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It's alive!
I had actually started to rewatch these with you, but stopped at Episode 6 when no updates came. Glad you haven't given up on it and once you get to 6, I'll resume my rewatch. You are in a for a wild ride my friend. The show hasn't even begun to warm up yet. Also, I believe my favorite two characters are just a few episodes away, but I'll get to them when they show up. |
12-27-2020, 01:55 PM | #30 |
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Super happy to see the thread back, first of all! Hopefully you can keep up a pace you feel comfortable with, but never feel bad if you have to take another extended break for any reason.
It's great to be back to watching this show right now, though. Since it's been a few months, episode 5 was a real reminder of just how rock solid this show is. DreamSword is dead-on about Liu Bei being a highlight, for one thing. His immense likability is what it makes an episode like this where basically everything goes wrong for him work super well. You usually don't write an of episode of a toku show so that the main hero loses both fights he's in, least of all so early on, and that's only the tip of the iceberg here. Not only is he failing his partners, he's pretty distinctly failing his friend, too, because Gongsun Zan isn't really wrong about him not having the same level of investment in the whole martial arts thing that she does. He's basically being called out for doing the usual superhero thing of disregarding his daily life in favor of getting wrapped up in bigger adventures, and I like that the show is even touching on that as more than just a fun joke. The plot hinges nicely around this singular central idea that Liu Bei is spreading himself too thin, and it all comes back to bite him at once in the end. As usual, the structure is great, and I'm excited to to see how that cliffhanger plays out.
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