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05-15-2021, 11:58 PM | #11 |
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Just realize it, after watching today’s episode, and remember when touma save the twin megido,
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05-16-2021, 01:52 AM | #12 |
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Yeah, this felt rushed. It felt to me it wanted to end the Luna Ritual arc so soon just so we can get to the Solomon arc. I'm not surprised considering it's Moroto directing this episode, I feel as if he's one of the weaker ones for this series. Felt the same kind of way for Zero-One's ep 35 where it had Aruto go "You's free to go, Horobi." and start everything to square one, so we can have Ark-Zero come in. It's the same here, put everything back to square one so that the riders can have their go at Solomon next week. Maybe a bit dissatisfied that Kento was done dirty here with his efforts being undone so easily. I like Kento, okay?
That said, I did like it basically did a status check on basically most of the cast on what they're up to or what they'll be up to next arc. Ogami, Rintarou, and Daishinji are who they are still, willing to do whatever it takes even without the two's swords (tho it did feel dumb they were just there just so Sabela can take them as hostage. But I guess it's in their character not to sit around?), Ren is still on his schtick with Dezast, actually nice to see some sort of brotherhood with the two, the Shindais are definitely leaving Logos' side. And Kento has some weight lifted off his shoulders, how little it could, now that he knows that Luna is still out there and was able to meet her anyway. Him discarding Ikazuchi for Kurayami does make it pretty obvious that the end point for his arc is taking up Ikazuchi again. Whether back as Espada or dual wielding. Hoping for the latter, but both choices are still thematically strong for his character. He either discards Kurayami and hands it to Yuri and becomes his own swordsman, free from the shackles of his father's legacy, or he takes up both swords, stays as Calibur signifying his own individuality as a swordsman while also reinstating the Calibur name to a side of good. What's curious is Storious. He doesn't seem particularly bothered with the ritual, only being interested in the how-do with it. He's not far from achieving a similar ritual himself. Making his own Sophia as well substituting the WRBs for Alter books, he's just missing the swords, and it's not particularly hard for them to gather again since everyone will probably get together at one point. I won't be surprised if he turns out to be the final villain, hell, I'm kind hoping he is since I'm far more interested in what's he up to compared to Logos. Yuri's back. Hi, Yuri! He never died, of course, but I thought he disappeared because he was sealed. Guess not, seems more like he was knocked out of consciousness. Hope he gets to have another talk with Kento, tho it seems like he will get that opportunity. One last thing to notice is that Tassel technically 'lied' to Touma about Luna. He mentions the girl is needed to save the world, yet she was actually a key to destroying it. The path to Touma's final form is clear, though. It's either they recreate the ritual Kamijou did that lets Touma get to the Great Book's table of contents and obtain the form there, or do a similar ritual to what Logos did and this form Touma. Solomon vs. Saber is gonna be crazy, though. Solomon was already stated to be god-like in power, yet it's still an incomplete form, which means we may or may not get another form for Solomon, maybe something less kitbash-y. Whatever Touma has will most likely surpass that, and that's scary. Edit: I need a .gif of Touma's golden bridge run, both POVs, and also Sophia's cute little run towards the bros. Edit again: When was the last time we had a kaijin (and only kaijin, no human form) that was as prominent and recurring as Dezast? The Imagins? Last edited by TheRaizin; 05-16-2021 at 02:31 AM.. |
05-16-2021, 07:39 AM | #13 |
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i hope it's mei because she's probably like mvp of this season and really developed character in my opinion plus her being involved in battles it's like ok just get her the suit already, what's the holdup here?
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05-16-2021, 11:46 AM | #14 |
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Man, it sucks for Touma to lose Luna again, after he finally saved her from that creep Master Logos. I really want Touma, Luna and Kento to be reunited for good.
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And Kento has some weight lifted off his shoulders, how little it could, now that he knows that Luna is still out there and was able to meet her anyway. Him discarding Ikazuchi for Kurayami does make it pretty obvious that the end point for his arc is taking up Ikazuchi again. Whether back as Espada or dual wielding. Hoping for the latter, but both choices are still thematically strong for his character. He either discards Kurayami and hands it to Yuri and becomes his own swordsman, free from the shackles of his father's legacy, or he takes up both swords, stays as Calibur signifying his own individuality as a swordsman while also reinstating the Calibur name to a side of good.
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What's curious is Storious. He doesn't seem particularly bothered with the ritual, only being interested in the how-do with it. He's not far from achieving a similar ritual himself. Making his own Sophia as well substituting the WRBs for Alter books, he's just missing the swords, and it's not particularly hard for them to gather again since everyone will probably get together at one point. I won't be surprised if he turns out to be the final villain, hell, I'm kind hoping he is since I'm far more interested in what's he up to compared to Logos.
It's humorous how Yuri just fell out of the sky in human form along with the other Seiken Swords! Regarding how he disappeared before, I think that was an effect of Kyomu's negation power temporarily reverting Saikou to its original state, which had a different intelligence to Yuri's. This would be ironic, considering how Yuri was the one who originally sealed Bacht 1000 years ago. Saikou was also attacked by Calibur, who has the power to inhibit shadows. Since Saikou's humanoid body is a shadow cast from the sword's light, that probably weakened him enough for Falchion to finish him off.
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05-16-2021, 01:42 PM | #15 |
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So I haven't watched this episode yet. But it turns out that Logos' throne is King Oradin's from Kiramager; you can see the 5 kiramei stone slots
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05-16-2021, 02:06 PM | #16 |
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Definitely a lot to unpack in this one! I guess first of all, I should say upfront some things feel a little arbitrary in how they maneuver the plot where it needs to go -- Ogami and Daishinji head off to fight Master Logos seemingly just because it'd be weird to leave them out; Touma appears to completely forget the villain he actually came to stop is still sitting five feet away after he defeats Falchion; it would've been very courteous of the show to include a proper shot of the swords' seals being broken whenever that was supposed to happen. You know, that kind of thing. For such a major turning point in the narrative, there is admittedly a sense of some polish being missing here, but while it's enough to start adding up, none of these things were huge deal breakers for me.
There's a huge amount of faith placed in the viewer caring about Luna that should be a problem, considering that we barely know her as a person, but Saber compensates for this surprisingly well using, well, Saber. I'm not sure if I've called any attention whatsoever to Shuuichirou Naitou's acting as Touma in the entire time the show has been airing, at least directly, but I've really come to appreciate what he brings to the character over time. I know I've mentioned before the very specific and kind of endearingly silly patterns of behavior Touma has; all the heroic screaming and the hunched back and everything -- you know exactly what I'm talking about if you've been watching the show, because it's the exact opposite of subtle. I'm not the first person to observe these things. And while it will always be entertaining to poke fun at that excessive energy*, I think there's something to be said for the way Touma treats nearly everything like it's the biggest deal ever and how that helps the viewer feel the same way. Like, I can't claim to care directly about Luna the way Touma does, but I can see that look on his face when he realizes he finally held on this time, and like, yeah, that is unmistakably the look of a guy who just got the catharsis he's been waiting 15 years for. There's an honesty to Touma that comes across in the performance, a sort of desperation, even, and I think that it draws me into the plot more than I might've given it credit for half a year ago. If Touma believes Luna is important, then sure; I believe Touma. The other characters that have the most going on here are easily Ren and Kento, and they're both pretty cool too. I mean, it's hilarious to think that Kenzan has just straight up become Leangle at this point, a connection I'm shocked it took me until he was literally insisting he's the Strongest Rider to make, but much like good ol' Mukki, I'm quickly becoming endeared to his obviously doomed quest to prove his strength. Certainly made for a nice enough moment in which Kento got to demonstrate that he'll always throw himself in harm's way for a friend. Kento is hitting the point where he's due for another major shift, and this episode took some great steps towards that, showing in a bunch of different ways that his commitment to the dark knight shtick is seriously wavering by now. I especially loved the bit at the start where he sees Touma and himself as children again, as though they've finally recovered that lost time, before snapping out of it as the doubt takes back over. Also quite nice was him instinctively going to grab Ikazuchi at first, and then looking like the choice to walk away from that life is killing him when he finally does leave. I'm just pretty into depressed Kento, I guess? He looks so miserable all the time now, but less in a way that's frustrating as a viewer, and more in a way where I just want to give him like, ALL the hugs. Dude seems like he could use them. Beyond that, there are a ton of points I could touch on, but not much I'm sure I could say anything significant about? Seeing Emotional Dragon again was great, even if there wasn't much narrative significance to it. Master Logos is fun, but I think letting the audience in on his motivations is going to be needed sooner rather than later for him to not get old, which I guess gets at why it's hard to say too much about the plot here -- things feel very transitionary at the moment. And it's a suitably exciting turning point, to be sure, but maybe one my opinion on will only really settle on in retrospect. *Case-in-point: Toei really needs to do the world a favor and release the raw footage of Touma charging at the camera so people can easily make memes of him running away from random backgrounds.
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05-16-2021, 02:16 PM | #17 |
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Here are some really scrambled thoughts. So despite this episode being a lot happening at once, I really enjoyed it. The whole thing with Touma saving Luna through his will was a great bit, though it did look a bit silly when Touma was green screened onto the environment (I.E the back shots). I like that despite people showing up for Ren he’s still hanging out with Desast, and the two will probably get up to some stuff soon. I’m half expecting Bacht to come back in someway, I’m not sure how though, his ending didn’t feel quite like closure though. Like I could see him showing up as a ghost to talk to our heroes about how much they suck and how they’re doomed to violence. I’m kind of peeved that Daishinji hasn’t got to do much lately. Ogami has been their to support the younger swordsmen. It just feels weird that Daishinji hasn’t got to do much. His actor has done a really good job showing him as frustrated that he can’t fight, using subtle movements and expressions even with his limited dialog. I really like Daishinji so I hope we get more of him in the future. It feels really weird to me that Kento’s work was all for not, and I don’t quite understand the mechanics of how the swords got unsealed. Was it the power of the books? Kento has been real good lately though I feel like the story is dragging its feet a bit to getting him back on the team. I’m hoping he joins up soon. Part of me is low key expecting the story to go on a bit before Touma gets his final form and it might insert a power up for Kento in there somehow. What was that watch like thing Ryoga was holding when he was talking to Master Logos about Bacht? Any hopes you all have for last minute upgrades and retools? Edit: going off what fish said above, Kento take a nap challenge. My friend and I were theorizing that he’s probably covered in eye make up to look that exhausted, that or the crew is breaking into his house to wake him up every hour.
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05-16-2021, 04:40 PM | #18 |
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Still like the idea though
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05-16-2021, 05:52 PM | #19 |
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Man, it sucks for Touma to lose Luna again, after he finally saved her from that creep Master Logos. I really want Touma, Luna and Kento to be reunited for good.
Unless Ikazuchi gets a new book, going back to it would be a downgrade from Kurayami. Kento choosing Kurayami was as much a practical choice as it was personal. Like many others, I hope that him leaving Ikazuchi behind is a setup for Mei to inherit it. = Tho, they could always go the Grease Blizzard route and make up a last-minute form. Jaou Dragon in the Swordriver? |
05-16-2021, 10:09 PM | #20 |
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