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01-13-2024, 01:32 AM | #11 |
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Now... I just like her chemistry with Shotaro. They're both fairly unlikable, but in opposing ways: Shotaro's trying so hard to be cool that you want someone to deflate his ego a bit, and Akiko's so grating in her objections that you want someone to yell at her. This show gives you both! But, honestly, I feel like I might just be deranged. It's incredibly to say that Akiko's great ever, or especially right now, as she's harassing Shotaro and maybe trying to end the series before it starts. She -- she sort of doesn't make a great first impression, no. I know you watched Movie War Core! You saw how much that dude let his family in on his life! I'm amazed Akiko even knew he worked in Fuuto!!!
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01-13-2024, 02:32 AM | #12 |
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As far as first episodes go, I think W's premiere is one of the all-time greats. It's relatively rare that we start with an established Rider instead of someone getting the belt for the first time, but it has some advantages. We do get a bit of Begins Night to start with, but mostly we're looking at a Shotaro whose fully realized as a detective and a Kamen Rider, with Akiko serving as the audience surrogate who's just seeing this world for the first time. I like this because it allows the show to focus more on the mystery and how Shotaro and Philip handle their cases, saving the recap of how they first met for later. It's a better primer for W's premise.
Shotaro may be my favorite Rider protagonist. There are a few challengers, but it's hard not to keep going back to him. He's just such a fun mix of the noir detective artifice on top of his real, much more immature personality. Renn Kiriyama does such a good job with the role, too, and I'm so glad we've gotten to see him come back to it so many times. I used to be in the same boat, but I've re-evaluated my opinion of her in a much more positive direction. Part of that is that looking back on the show I can remember how much she grew on me and that makes me appreciate her early appearances more. Another part is that I've seen all the shows that came after W and compared to Shunpei or Onari, Akiko is far more tolerable. |
01-13-2024, 11:56 AM | #13 |
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Shotaro may be my favorite Rider protagonist. There are a few challengers, but it's hard not to keep going back to him. He's just such a fun mix of the noir detective artifice on top of his real, much more immature personality. Renn Kiriyama does such a good job with the role, too, and I'm so glad we've gotten to see him come back to it so many times.
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01-13-2024, 12:02 PM | #14 |
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While I don't plan to rewatch along this time, due to my currently busy Tokusatsu schedule, I totally have a fair amount of opinions to share about Kamen Rider Double, the 2-in-1 detective.
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KAMEN RIDER W EPISODE 1 - ?W?S SEARCH: TWO DETECTIVES IN ONE?
Kamen Rider W is a story about a city. It?s a thing that very few Kamen Rider shows are about, honestly. There?re shows about companies, and schools, and all of Japan. There are shows about families, both biological and found. But this one? like, Fuuto is the main character, in a way that feels completely fresh. Quote:
The concept of protecting a definable city helps add quick and fascinating shades to our two main characters ? Akiko and Shotaro.
That?s my favorite thing about this premiere, how much it foregrounds the dynamic of Akiko and Shotaro. While the series as a whole is memorable for our two-in-one Kamen Rider, I found myself endlessly delighted by the way Akiko?s snarky self-regard ran up against Shotaro?s performative cool. She?s new in town, and just wants to avoid Encyclopedia Brown But A Junon Superboy Contestant as much as she can. Shotaro?s attempts to be suave and sophisticated just bounce right off her disinterest, while still creating a sense that she?s sort of intrigued by his dedication to helping the people of Fuuto. It?s? like, it could easily come off as grating ? generally no fun when someone shows up to shit all over the star of the show! ? but Akiko?s insults land pretty well on a doofus who could not be less manly or cool if he tried. Quote:
The quirks of Shotaro and Philip are of course always fun, and we even get my favorite form of W right upfront with LunaJoker. They knew just how good that form was! They also knew just how good the switch-in attack for W was. That cyclone hits so hard! I played Memory of Heroez; I would know!
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01-13-2024, 12:46 PM | #15 |
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Honestly, I like Akiko as the cheerful and goofy heart of the team, like Mei for SOL. When you're literally sharing a body with another dude, teamwork is pretty important, way more important for Double than any other Rider. They have to be in sync in both mind and body for every fight, but Shoutarou's impulsiveness and Phillip's stubbornness can often cause them to clash. Akiko, being the daughter of a man who Shoutarou and Phillip both respect, in addition to having a surprising empathetic side, makes her a strong mediator necessary for resolving their conflicts. Also, her slipper is an iconic weapon.
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01-13-2024, 02:06 PM | #16 |
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This is a way that I never really saw Akiko until, like, yesterday. (I still think it's maybe overstating things to call her "a strong mediator"; she tends to needlessly escalate a lot of problems in this episode!) I think her buffoonery comes off a little more free-spirited now, and her abrasive attitude with Shotaro is just her treating him as disrespectfully as he treats her. She kind of works for me because she isn't trying to make friends yet?
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01-13-2024, 06:02 PM | #17 |
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Very bold move, comparing early show Akiko to the absolute wonder known as Shunpei.
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01-13-2024, 06:21 PM | #18 |
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Save it for the Wizard thread, you two.
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01-13-2024, 06:27 PM | #19 |
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KAMEN RIDER W EPISODE 2 - “W’S SEARCH: THE ONE WHO MAKES THE CITY CRY”
I don’t know if this one all the way works as anything other than a proof of concept. It ends up trading in last episode’s quirky character work for an overly-long action sequence with some We Are Only A Couple Years Removed From Castle Doran-level computer graphics. It’s still a neat (if limited) exploration of the central trio, and their dynamic, but I don’t know that it was especially good or memorable. Like, the mystery here is… I don’t know that it plays fair with the audience? Marina ends up being the T-Rex Dopant due more to the conservation of cast -slash- noir femme fatale tropes, than due to anything we learned in the previous episode. We only find out that she was another former Windscale employee after Shotaro figures out she’s the T-Rex Dopant, which feels sort of crucial to guessing she’s the culprit? And her whole plan depends on knowing that Shotaro is Double, which is definitely not common knowledge at this point in the show? It’s a mystery where the only other named character is the killer, and for reasons that are all but invented for the finale. It sort of works, because Shotaro’s reaction sells the effect, but it’s not a great puzzle to solve. The reveal doesn’t even really land for me, because there’s not much to her after she goes Full CG Monster. She’s a raving lunatic, and then she completely disappears from the story so a CG Double can grapple with a CG dinosaur. The T-Rex Dopant suit is not going to be in any monster hall of fame – it looks like an upscaled hand-puppet, which is the nicest way I can describe it – but at least it allows for a physical confrontation. The big ol’ metal monster version is… I just can’t ever care about that type of fight scene. Too… I don’t know, too sterile? It’s clean in the exact way that I want toku action to be messy. Not a fan! The character work is still strong, though, which helps the episode manage to be an overall enjoyable watch. (Not a success, exactly, but not a drag to get through.) There’s Philip and Shotaro fighting about Shotaro’s inability to embrace his empathy and weakness, which is – if memory serves – going to be something of a recurring bit in this series. It’s a neat other half to Akiko’s frustration with Shotaro, where his need to be seen as someone else risks missing what’s worthwhile about himself. He’s a guy that wants to be seen as tough, but his softness is why both Akiko and Philip rush to his aid. The punch he throws at Philip, though… kinda not sure on that one? Philip literally shrugs it off, and the show treats it as A Manly Disagreement, but it’s still sort of a big deal that the show’s not really willing to confront. Philip isn’t being a dick to Shotaro – Philip is psychologically unable to see the world the same way Shotaro does, and is trying to navigate their friendship the best way he can. (Dude even shows up at the end to make things right after getting punched in the face!) It’s a cruel thing Shotaro does, not just an impetuous or ill-considered thing. I’d certainly love to see the show treat Philip’s condition more sensitively, but I also remembered that I’m watching a Toei superhero show from 2009, so I’ll try to keep some perspective. I mean, at least that part’s worth talking about? Otherwise, the mystery underwhelmed, and the action was too phony for me to care about. There’s a couple good Akiko gags in the chase scene (her on the loudspeaker, “Jump!” *nods* “How?!”), but I zoned out for a bunch of it. It– it’s an okay finale to a better debut. Not upset, just a little let down. — DIE-A MEMORIES -Oh, right, this is the Naked Wedding one or whatever! Man, the Sonozaki family at this point… like, I get it, we need to learn about the crime family in a mystery show (plus Other Reasons), but every visit with them is a bizarre momentum killer. I’d maybe argue that they could’ve been saved for a little later in the first act? -Show is super-duper into all of Double’s toyetic gadgets! It’ll be a constant presence through the first half of Heisei Phase 2, and it never did anything for me. (Fourze… not looking forward to those Happy Meal toys!) I find it a little cluttered, as an aesthetic. There’s the superhero, and the toy accessories, and the multi-change bike… I don’t know, feels a little busy for one episode. -First appearance of Watcherman! I like all of the informants and street team stuff. It’s old-school Holmesian mystery stuff, and it just always works. It adds to that feeling that Fuuto as a whole is part of Double’s success.
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01-13-2024, 07:50 PM | #20 |
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What's insane was that the whole thing was streamed online at the time and the show was mostly compilations of moments. But after his run on it ended he went on to pursue stage acting and be a tv personality in variety shows and stuff.
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