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02-21-2021, 09:36 PM | #101 |
I got nothing
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I guess you could say regarding the Main trio that the show has managed to string you along.
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02-21-2021, 09:42 PM | #102 |
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-Everything the Momotaros suit actor is doing to fill out that character’s identity is brilliant. The physicality tells you everything about his boredom, his wounded pride, his need to feel included, his guilt, his growing admiration for Ryotaro… like, the VA is great, but I could tell you everything about Momotaros without a single line of dialogue, and that is all down to the guy in the suit.
I really love this two-parter, by the way. I recall rewatching it on a whim maybe like a year or so after finishing the series the first time, and ever since then, I've considered it something of a definitive Den-O arc. It's so straightforward in what it's doing, but so perfect in its execution. It's a huge reason I love Plat Form as much as I do, which is to say, it's a huge reason I love Ryoutarou as much as I do.
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02-21-2021, 09:53 PM | #103 |
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I really love this two-parter, by the way. I recall rewatching it on a whim maybe like a year or so after finishing the series the first time, and ever since then, I've considered it something of a definitive Den-O arc. It's so straightforward in what it's doing, but so perfect in its execution. It's a huge reason I love Plat Form as much as I do, which is to say, it's a huge reason I love Ryoutarou as much as I do.
And it's... it's kind of putting the lie to Owner's Nothing Changes line, because while Ryotaro's efforts didn't change Yamagoshi, they did change Momotaros. Trying to help people has a larger effect than whether or not that one person improved from the effort. I like that way the Momotaros story undercuts the existential futility of Owner's wrap-up.
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02-21-2021, 10:04 PM | #104 |
I have a problematic type
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One of the things that annoys me with Den-O is when people write Ryotaro off as a wimpy loser. This episode is one example of why I think that argument is bunkum. Ryotaro can't fight, that's true. He's never going to be taking on waves of mooks with his martial arts skills. It's not fair to call him weak, though. Where Ryotaro really shines is in the strength of his resolve.
It takes a lot of guts to go into a fight like this episode's without a real chance of winning. But Ryotaro does it just to prove a point. He does it because he's willing to take a beating in order to convince Momotaros that he was wrong and that this partnership isn't going to be just a case of Momo taking his body for joyrides whenever he wants. It's a good way to earn the respect of someone who values strength. |
02-21-2021, 11:10 PM | #105 |
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One of the things that annoys me with Den-O is when people write Ryotaro off as a wimpy loser. This episode is one example of why I think that argument is bunkum. Ryotaro can't fight, that's true. He's never going to be taking on waves of mooks with his martial arts skills. It's not fair to call him weak, though. Where Ryotaro really shines is in the strength of his resolve.
It takes a lot of guts to go into a fight like this episode's without a real chance of winning. But Ryotaro does it just to prove a point. He does it because he's willing to take a beating in order to convince Momotaros that he was wrong and that this partnership isn't going to be just a case of Momo taking his body for joyrides whenever he wants. It's a good way to earn the respect of someone who values strength.
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02-21-2021, 11:30 PM | #106 |
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02-21-2021, 11:35 PM | #107 |
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That's what I thought. Thanks for the heads-up!
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02-22-2021, 12:19 AM | #108 |
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Forgive me if this has already been addressed but the delinquent with the baseball cap in episodes 1 and 2. Yeah, that dude. That is Kirihiko Sudo aka Nasca Dopant from Kamen Rider W and Cain from Gokaiger.
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02-22-2021, 12:32 AM | #109 |
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It hasn't! Good catch!
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02-22-2021, 06:02 AM | #110 |
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I'm with Fish in considering this just 'the' Den-O arc. I must have seen this, lik, 6 years ago, and it just sums up the show's mission statement in one. Sure, maybe you can't change the big things in time, but you can do small things, and even those small changes can make all the difference. Pre-Sid may not have got that big break, but he no longer has the guilt weighing him down, and that's something. Momotaros is still a hothead, but he's starting to gain the most begrudging respect for this kid he's bonded with. And Ryotaro... yeah, he may not be the most physical, but that doesn't make him not strong. A good, precious boy.
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