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07-13-2013, 11:02 PM | #11 |
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The movie wasn't hard to follow at all in 3D, in fact I think the 3D was excellent and I don't even like 3D. (AND I found out it's post-converted. WTH?) I only bought the 3D since the 2D showing wasn't convenient. My mum was watching it with me (she loves these kinds of movies) and she could make out everything just fine unlike, well, a lot of films with this level of action. Even the final underwater battle, she recognised the difference between Scunner and Raiju. (but didn't know who was named who)
This movie exceeded expectations. The story wasn't a novella, but it was solid and well-done beyond what most non-action movies even do these days. Deffinately a tale worth telling and not just a vehicle for fights to happen. Survival against increasingly adverse odds plus character backstory and EXCELLENT world-building. And I mean excellent. The way the Kaiju work, the way the world reacts. So genuine. All the characters were well-done, even the punk Chuck who managed to redeem himself and, again, in a genuine way. Mako was probably my favourite, and her flashback to Onibaba was really, really well done. Plus on top of it all, every scene felt perfect. There will be no fast-forwarding to action scenes when I get this. But man, what action. All clear, are fluid, and really, really intense. You literally felt like you were there and experiencing everything the characters were. The Hong Kong fight was ludicrous and Gipsy Danger is awesome. I seriously have a hard time pinning down anything this movie actually did wrong, or even not "well." It was a very well-crafted, well-realised story. Nothing felt truely lacking or poorly-concieved. It all felt, well, perfect for the story. The only things I would change is give Coyote Tango, Cherno Alpha and the boss aliens more screentime. In regards to the latter, not even that much more, just a few more scenes showing them building Kaiju. But more time for those two Jaegers. (though I'm glad Strker was so prominent since I thought GD would be the all-around star) But really, it's a small thing when you realise the only reason they probably weren't exposed was because the movie would be close to three hours if we got to see them fight before their last battle. I am more than stoked that this movie exists. I.e. that it not only was made, but is this good and well-realised. This will go down in history, no doubt, as a proud moment in Toku history on both the giant robot side of things and the Diakaiju side. That those genres were so so well adapted and realised stateside with such love and respect and just a genuine want to not reimagine, not put a new spin on, but simply take what people love and make it better-looking and better-realised. And yet for all it's homage and inspiration taken and respects paid, it manages to be it's own. That is something I wouldn't think possible, especially these days. Quote:
But if I had to pick one element I liked best it would be the treatment of Mako. Any other action movie probably would've gone through the cliche "She can't pilot because she's a girl" plot point, but for the entire time onscreen Mako is shown honest respect and serious development. Its so rare for action films to have well-rounded female characters these days and Del Toro pulled it off.
Mako and "RAH-LAY" (that was pretty funny, too) never even kissed. Hell, there wasn't even anything expressly romantic. Just an intensly strong bond that is more complex than "you pretty me want kiss you." When they just hugged when it was all over, that felt more emotional than any fish-fighting lip-smacking toughe-grabbing... what were we talking about? You have no idea how impressed I am at this level of restraint by Hollywood. Really made both characters seem a lot deeper than most protagonists than is typical... or even some of the atypical. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 07-13-2013 at 11:12 PM.. |
07-13-2013, 11:20 PM | #12 |
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Definitely enjoyed it a lot. Not my favorite kaiju movie by any means, but a really good solid action movie. If I had one criticism it's that the action was hard to make out at times(for example I wasn't always clear which kaiju was which in the big final battle), and I went to the 2D show. Can't imagine how hard it was to follow in 3D. But it was still very well done.
Oh,and by the way,am I the only one that really wants a plushie Kaiju skin parasite?
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07-13-2013, 11:37 PM | #13 |
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Plus, I didn't find it cluttered since they kept things clear. They didn't have just one big tussle of five. They let the big guy come in just after, like a final boss. Quote:
That thing was fucking creepy. But so realistic. Oh yeah, the effects were bang-on. Everything looked so real. |
07-14-2013, 12:04 AM | #14 |
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Just got back from seeing it so I'll need a moment to articulate my thoughts on it. But holy shit I loved it! I went in expecting a realistic/non-goofy take on Super Sentai but it's actually closer to Evangelion with how the Kaiju and the Jeager work. Lastly, to those who have their doubts about the film... GO WATCH IT!
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07-14-2013, 12:15 AM | #15 |
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The thing is, it wouldn't have seemed logical that the aliens only sent one more Kaiju. Yeah, to us it makes sense to send in one big guy, but if they can send in more than one why not? Especially since they were guarding the breach. If two mechs are coming, don't send one that can distract the big guy and let the other go past, or send out two and have one beaten leading to the first problem. Stack the odds. Hell, even with three and one being so large, they still lost.
Plus, I didn't find it cluttered since they kept things clear. They didn't have just one big tussle of five. They let the big guy come in just after, like a final boss. I want a plushie baby Otatchi. Also yes,it could come with a small scale Pearlman that it can eat.lol
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07-14-2013, 01:20 AM | #16 |
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Love this movie. I'm very happy it didn't disappoint. There were a few things that didn't make sense but most of it is unknown to anyone in the movie as well (stuff with the aliens). I also don't get why Charlie didn't just get them on then radio or phone after he linked with the baby and found out the plan wouldn't work. A helicopter ride and rushing to the command center seemed like nothing but a device to create urgency. Why not just add some dialogue explaining why he couldn't get them on the radio? I know it would have cost too much but seeing more early Kaiju battles would have been cool.
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07-14-2013, 08:15 AM | #17 |
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I liked this movie a lot. The scene where Hannibal Chau gets eaten and his return in the stinger still makes me laugh when I think about it. There are a LOT of moments from the movie I like even more when I think about them.
Really wish the Russian and Chinese teams got more screen time, though they did some awesome stuff when they entered their fights. Honestly wish there was more Knifehead too. It and Onibaba might be my favorite kaiju designs. Raiju too. I really liked the shot of it swimming towards the boat. |
07-14-2013, 08:30 AM | #18 |
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My only wish is that Raiju had gotten more screen time, heck, any kaiju that wasn't Otachi or Leatherback needed more screen time.
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07-14-2013, 09:11 AM | #19 |
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Just saw it and loved it. Really have no major complaints, I enjoyed every second of the movie.
Also, hell yeah, Australia represent! We never get such a spotlight, it was good to see. Eureka Striker was a total badass, I really, really hope we get something akin to Monsterarts of at least Gypsy Danger, Eureka Striker and Knifehead. They would just be amazing and there's so much accessory potential for Gypsy Danger. I bet the makers of the new Godzilla are quaking in their boots. I never thought such an excellently done, exciting kaiju movie would ever be made, let alone one with such a good critical response. The bar has definitely been set. Last edited by Starscream Gaga; 07-14-2013 at 09:18 AM.. |
07-14-2013, 09:44 AM | #20 |
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The movie wasn't hard to follow at all in 3D, in fact I think the 3D was excellent and I don't even like 3D. (AND I found out it's post-converted. WTH?) I only bought the 3D since the 2D showing wasn't convenient. My mum was watching it with me (she loves these kinds of movies) and she could make out everything just fine unlike, well, a lot of films with this level of action. Even the final underwater battle, she recognised the difference between Scunner and Raiju. (but didn't know who was named who)
This movie exceeded expectations. The story wasn't a novella, but it was solid and well-done beyond what most non-action movies even do these days. Deffinately a tale worth telling and not just a vehicle for fights to happen. Survival against increasingly adverse odds plus character backstory and EXCELLENT world-building. And I mean excellent. The way the Kaiju work, the way the world reacts. So genuine. All the characters were well-done, even the punk Chuck who managed to redeem himself and, again, in a genuine way. Mako was probably my favourite, and her flashback to Onibaba was really, really well done. Plus on top of it all, every scene felt perfect. There will be no fast-forwarding to action scenes when I get this. But man, what action. All clear, are fluid, and really, really intense. You literally felt like you were there and experiencing everything the characters were. The Hong Kong fight was ludicrous and Gipsy Danger is awesome. I seriously have a hard time pinning down anything this movie actually did wrong, or even not "well." It was a very well-crafted, well-realised story. Nothing felt truely lacking or poorly-concieved. It all felt, well, perfect for the story. The only things I would change is give Coyote Tango, Cherno Alpha and the boss aliens more screentime. In regards to the latter, not even that much more, just a few more scenes showing them building Kaiju. But more time for those two Jaegers. (though I'm glad Strker was so prominent since I thought GD would be the all-around star) But really, it's a small thing when you realise the only reason they probably weren't exposed was because the movie would be close to three hours if we got to see them fight before their last battle. I am more than stoked that this movie exists. I.e. that it not only was made, but is this good and well-realised. This will go down in history, no doubt, as a proud moment in Toku history on both the giant robot side of things and the Diakaiju side. That those genres were so so well adapted and realised stateside with such love and respect and just a genuine want to not reimagine, not put a new spin on, but simply take what people love and make it better-looking and better-realised. And yet for all it's homage and inspiration taken and respects paid, it manages to be it's own. That is something I wouldn't think possible, especially these days. Or conversly she's an unstoppable badass of course motivated by some selfconcious issue who shows no signs of weakness until a man takes her by the waist and they make out at literally the most inappropriate time in the film. Mako and "RAH-LAY" (that was pretty funny, too) never even kissed. Hell, there wasn't even anything expressly romantic. Just an intensly strong bond that is more complex than "you pretty me want kiss you." When they just hugged when it was all over, that felt more emotional than any fish-fighting lip-smacking toughe-grabbing... what were we talking about? You have no idea how impressed I am at this level of restraint by Hollywood. Really made both characters seem a lot deeper than most protagonists than is typical... or even some of the atypical. |
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