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05-07-2021, 09:31 PM | #51 |
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Boy do you have the wrong franchise then! Just for starters, this is a great chance to mention that the name Kiva is derived from the Japanese word kiba, which means "fang", but spelled with a V specifically because it's also short for King of Vampire. I have to say, it's low-key one of my favorite Rider titles? I don't know, there's just something about it; it's just short and sweet and rolls off the tongue.
But, hell, if you run the risk of being devoured by a Dinosaur Cathedral for the benefit (or detriment?) of Zanki, you are allowed to be a little gaudy in your presentation. I mean, you're already a decorative vampire monster! Just go all the way!
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05-07-2021, 09:35 PM | #52 |
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we shuld al b carful as 2 not get bit by a horse n die
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05-07-2021, 09:38 PM | #53 |
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05-08-2021, 01:23 AM | #54 |
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Correction. The Kiba in Yuji Kiba is 木場 which translates to lumberyard and not 牙 which is the character for fang.
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05-08-2021, 02:39 AM | #55 |
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Well, I’m back with another of these.
Octopus Fangire True name: The Lady Portrait Torn in a Full Moon (満月に引き裂かれた貴婦人の肖像 Mangetsu ni Hikisakareta Kifujin no Shōzō) Human identity: Hitomi Miyazawa Class: Aqua Rank: Pawn Actors: Masako Umemiya (Midori from Hibiki), Kanae Oki (Love from Fresh Pretty Cure) (Fangire form) One thing I like about this episode is that we go from the 86 segments where we see Hitomi being turned down for repairs by Otoya, before we cut to 08 and see Wataru fixing it for her with no issues (Otoya really needed to invest in a banned customers list). Yuri and Megumi being related. Well, it’s kind of obvious given that they look vaguely similar, they have the same basic role in the plot and the actresses are credited as singing a duet on one of the albums (it’s called Feel the Same if you’re curious, since I don’t think it props up in the show much. Tv-Nihon subbed the music video). Just a heads up, tomorrow’s episode’s Fangire’s information has been pre-emptively redacted, due to a mixture of spoilers and me needing to focus on a wrap up for my Hurricaneger thread (the final episode of which is also tomorrow). |
05-08-2021, 10:11 AM | #56 |
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Oh shit, it was! I thought she looked familiar, but I never put it together. Thanks!
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Yuri and Megumi being related. Well, it’s kind of obvious given that they look vaguely similar, they have the same basic role in the plot and the actresses are credited as singing a duet on one of the albums (it’s called Feel the Same if you’re curious, since I don’t think it props up in the show much. Tv-Nihon subbed the music video).
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05-08-2021, 02:04 PM | #57 |
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I think it's maybe just a general lightening in tone, more than it's a thing where Den-O won out. There's always been goofiness and humor and sweetness to Kamen Rider; I think we're just watching those elements increase in importance. Maybe more kids want to have fun than want to be scared? Maybe it's a shift in the culture?
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I think I would? Good characters come from lots of different writers, just like a writer can have lots of different good characters. Like, I feel like you've got this view of Inoue writing heroes who are antisocial, but, like: dude created Agito! Inoue wrote Shouichi, arguably the sweetest Rider in all of Heisei. He's not just a writer who creates closed-off heroes.
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KAMEN RIDER KIVA EPISODE 02 - “SUITE - A FATHER AND SON’S VIOLIN”
It’s a little hard to see what he’s getting at about it in this episode, though. The Octopus Fangire doesn’t really get a ton of development, acting instead as a linking element between both eras of the narrative. It’s intriguing to see her connection to her violin, the pride she takes in it, but it’s nothing I can really nail down. I liked it, though. I like the monster feeling something deeper than the heroes, digging into a primal response that the Fangires are weaponizing somehow. Like, Artistry As A Commodity is such a neat concept to explore… I’m just glad it’s being brought up? There’re no real answers to it as a problem here. It’s not making a statement. But it’s raising the question in a compelling way, and I really appreciated that. Quote:
The other big idea, and one that seems equally likely to form a spine for this series, is trying to use art to connect with people. Specifically, Wataru is trying to find a part of himself by recreating the art his father made, and… like, I get why this would be Inoue’s last Kamen Rider series. The son of a tokusatsu writer, doing a series about fathers and sons, connected by art? Come on. What else could that dude have to talk about after this show?
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Complicating matters slightly for Wataru’s search for identity is that his dad is Grease, and Grease is WEIRD. Even in different phases of Heisei, this guy is down bad. Otoya is… he is a lot. There’s a slight comedic skeeziness to his horny obliviousness, but it’s mostly just aggravating. We’re completely on Yuri’s side in this episode, even as it’s apparent that there’s a greater depth to Otoya. He’s just tacky, and crass. That turtleneck, that chain, they say it all. He fancies himself a classy individual, a showy man of taste, but he’s just an oily creep. He’s someone Yuri is frustrated by, and he’s a distraction from her serious mission.
I mean, the fencing display Otoya puts on is very dynamic; all sparks and moonlight. But it’s the line he comes into the scene with that I’m most enamored of. He asks the Octopus Fangire, “What do you think music is?” It’s confrontational, and it’s almost wounded. The idea of her taking something beautiful and using it to harm, he’s offended by it. That type of character, who is protecting… not humanity as a species, but humanity as an attribute, I really dig that. Otoya respects art, respects what it means to people, and he can’t suffer the Octopus Fangire to live. Quote:
We didn’t spend a ton of time in 2008 this episode, since this one was way more about introducing Otoya and expanding on Yuri/Megumi’s organizational ties (and Yuri is Megumi’s mom?!), but I really liked the plot about Wataru trying to find the correct wood to repair the violin. That whole scene of Megumi berating Wataru, Shizuka trying to defend Wataru, Megumi berating Shizuka, Shizuka starting to cry, and Megumi realizing she has been sarcastically insulting two weird kids and that is not a cool thing to do as an adult… so good. So good! It’s that Inoue character-building I love, where everyone’s being just a little bit awful and then feeling bad about it, and how that creates bonds between people. Wataru ending the scene by being unable to ask for a table correctly because he can't say words out loud under stress is the icing on a very delicious cake. Not a bunch with our modern-day cast, but they were incredibly charming. Socially-awkward skinny pretty boy Kamen Riders and tough female friends always, please and thank you.
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05-08-2021, 02:21 PM | #58 |
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Halfway through Episode 3, and I figured out where else I recognized Otoya from:
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05-08-2021, 02:24 PM | #59 |
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I did say that he’d be like one of the Airimirers (I forget which one, but it’s the one who had the same “Leisure Suit Larry” schtick) in the Den-O thread (though I didn’t mention any names).
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05-08-2021, 03:48 PM | #60 |
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You are definitely going to love the next episode post.
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