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03-03-2023, 08:19 AM | #931 |
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As someone else who never got round to Zenkaiger (I haven't actually seen the Zenkai counterpart, I'll just have to assume Reika and Ryouga were brought back by to their own world by... oh, lets say, Moe), yeah, it's a fun piece which breaks away from the apocalyptic overtones to have fun, which sometimes you just need in a crossover like this.
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03-03-2023, 09:19 AM | #932 |
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03-03-2023, 10:18 AM | #933 |
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KAMEN RIDER SABER SPECIAL CHAPTER - ?THE WORLD PIRATE ARRIVES, AS WORLDS COLLIDE?
The big deal for it is the appearance of Twokaiser, whom I found to be? fine. Diend casts a long shadow for any interdimensional tokusatsu thief, and Twokaiser definitely doesn?t challenge for that title off of this single appearance. He?s classically dismissive about suggestions of heroism, and he exists at a baseline of Untrustworthy. He doesn?t add a ton to the group dynamic (almost all of the problem-solving comes from Touma and Kento), and his initial scenes are the best the character got for me. He did the minimum of both selling his character traits and not getting completely overshadowed by a more beloved cast (of mine, anyway), so I don?t harbor any ill will against him or anything. He was okay, for an episode. When it comes to interdimensional Tokusatsu thieves, I actually prefer Zox to Kaito (Daiki, not Goshikida). Zox is entertaining, he dances before his morphs and form changes, he has a good singing voice, he loves his younger siblings and unlike Kaito, he's not a yandere. I second what others have said though, it's a lot easier to appreciate how cool he is when he has the rest of the Zenkaigers and Goldtwoikar family to interact with. Zenkaiger Episode 20 is a Zox focus, so maybe you'll be able to appreciate him more soon. Quote:
But yeah, it's a pretty fun special and honestly I'm just glad it exists? I've always found the specials they try to do very fun... for the most part. Gaim and ToQger alongside Drive and Ninninger are harmlessly fun specials with some nice gags. Ghost and Zyuohger while sticking to separate episodes, made the most out of not having a special by doing having an A and B-Plot separating some of the cast into a mini-crossover.
So when I heard there'd be a Zenkaiger/Saber crossover, a year after enduring that terrible 6 week hiatus, I was even more ticked off. Fortunately, it only stalled Saber, since this special is basically an extra long Zenkaiger episode. I could tolerate that and I didn't think it turned out too bad. Ideally, I would prefer that they stick to the Zyuohger/Ghost and Kyuranger/EX-Aid format, where the crossovers are limited to subplot and thus don't intrude on each other's stories, rather they attempt to enrich the morals of those stories, although I agree that Zyuohger/Ghost had better execution. But I hope you can understand that while you may consider these specials fun and have the right to enjoy them as much as you want, they do have collateral damage for people who look forward to the show and don't want unnecessary tangents, for the same reason people don't like recaps. In that case, I will cast Asanuma Shintarou to voice the role of Sh Ranger.
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03-03-2023, 12:31 PM | #934 |
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I can tell you right now, that I absolutely adore Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger. And this crossover they did with both is glorious.
If you thought the singin' and dancin' gold pirate with the funny name was weird, the Zenkaiger episode (where the Kamijou siblings get sent to the Zenkaiger World) is even more bonkers. Zenkaiger's plot is centered around parallel worlds, so this isn't just "let's crossover the two just for the heck of it!" well it is, but it actually kind of works, especially for Super Hero Senki (that I still have yet to watch). I'll have more to say about Saber later. Eventually. Maybe.
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03-03-2023, 12:55 PM | #935 |
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I really enjoyed this episode, both on its own and in combination with the Zenkaigers part. And while it's mostly a TV commercial for SHS, it's interesting in its own right. To begin with, this is kind of a return to the first episodes of the show: there is a monster and our heroes use the knowledge from the books to defeat it. And lest they destroy him in half a second because of their development in all these episodes, let the riders lose their books. And to make it funnier, let the main character be to blame. By the way, I will join in the praise: this scene is gorgeous.
Zox is also a cool guest character. This hasn't been written about yet, but I really enjoyed his fight with the Shindais, with the books tossing around to distract the siblings guarding the library. Also the dance is great! The fanfiction is great. It's great that you decided to dedicate it to Ryoga - the latest of the hero riders in a rider-packed show. I also want to point out that it's a wonderful coincidence that we're discussing the episode where Touma showed his writing part (albeit not with the best consequences) on International Writer's Day! |
03-03-2023, 01:01 PM | #936 |
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So, you're actually watching this a decent few episodes before it actually aired. That's fine, from the 'Special Chapter' title you can tell that they wrote this one to exist somewhat out of continuity. Funnily enough though, the Zenkaiger half of this special is numbered for that show, and does contain at least One new development that means it's definitely in continuity for Zenkai!
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As someone else who never got round to Zenkaiger (I haven't actually seen the Zenkai counterpart, I'll just have to assume Reika and Ryouga were brought back by to their own world by... oh, lets say, Moe), yeah, it's a fun piece which breaks away from the apocalyptic overtones to have fun, which sometimes you just need in a crossover like this.
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When it comes to interdimensional Tokusatsu thieves, I actually prefer Zox to Kaito (Daiki, not Goshikida). Zox is entertaining, he dances before his morphs and form changes, he has a good singing voice, he loves his younger siblings and unlike Kaito, he's not a yandere.
I look forward to it!
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03-03-2023, 01:04 PM | #937 |
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This is such a Sentai development to me (someone who does not watch Sentai) and I sort of loved it. The monster making their books disappear until the heroes figure out the trick to getting them back, while wacky antics occur in the meantime, that's just a zero percent Kamen Rider plot. The Kamen Rider version is Calibur muting everyone's swords and forcing them to live with the trauma!
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03-03-2023, 01:09 PM | #938 |
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For some odd reason the Brave Dragon Jingle they use in both here and Super Hero Senki is a different take them the usual one the use in the show it's weird.
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03-03-2023, 01:48 PM | #939 |
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Yeah, it's... there's a thing in Kamen Rider, and I don't know if it's a modern development or something innate with the pacing, where so much fun storytelling and characterization for the main Rider gets jettisoned as the series grows its cast and defines its villain.
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03-03-2023, 02:06 PM | #940 |
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But that doesn't mean I have to like it!
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