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07-24-2023, 10:45 PM | #3871 |
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Yeah, they fixed the formatting errors but it's still a low-budget release. From what I can gather based on my limited Japanese knowledge, however, the dubtitles are at least close enough.
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07-25-2023, 03:23 PM | #3872 |
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I remember reading a bunch of people on twitter talking about the dub vs sub for Squid Game on Netflix.
A lot of people complained about the dub being less accurate and missing nuance vs the sub, but the big reason for all that is that the dub team had to worry about saying a sentence that could basically match the mouth movements of the original actor. The subtitle people just kind of have to worry about putting up a sentence that could be read in your head, vs the dub team’s worry of having to read a sentence out loud. So if there is a difference between sub and dub, it’s because of that. Both kind of serve different purposes, but the worst of both worlds is a dubtitle, lol. Sorry if this is real basic stuff that anybody should know. I didn’t know it until I saw it all on twitter two or three years ago. |
07-25-2023, 03:25 PM | #3873 |
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Oh shoot. I keep pulling up this thread because I wanted to say Ultraman Blazar is good.
There, I said it. I’m very pleased with the show! I’m watching the dub too, lol. |
07-25-2023, 05:23 PM | #3874 |
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I didn't feel like I had too much to say about episode 3 of Blazar that wouldn't apply to every other episode so far (it's quite entertaining!), but on the subject of English dubs, I've been watching every episode of Blazar twice, and have recently finished getting all the way through Z again with its dub, so I really want to take some time out to say that the quality of both has been extremely commendable, top marks work.
I'm watching Blazar episodes again like the day after, with the Japanese voices still fresh in my head, and as someone who is listening to both audio tracks, rather than only mostly reading one of them, I'm hard pressed to tell that much of a difference in the experience so far. I think the decision to translate 「俺が行く」 as "I've got this" kinda says it all. There's clear thought and care being put into the localization, and that's a good thing for a show that was made the same way. It's been a while since I've sat down and watched Z in Japanese, so there's more room for me to be forgetting some particular bit of amazing subtlety that ~maybe~ got lost in translation, but on the same token, meeting the English audio more as its own thing thanks to that distance, I can again say it felt like it captured the show's spirit pretty much perfectly. There's a lot of fantastic comedy and heavy drama alike all over the place throughout Z, and it never came off to me like the new voices were failing to do justice to the humor and the heart that made that show the instant classic it became. I'm pretty sure I've expressed some skepticism about the idea of dubbing a tokusatsu show into English on these forums before, and these two shows have gotten me to change my stance on that just by themselves. There's definitely a potential audience out there for whom quickly reading line after line of text is a big ask, which I'm maybe out of touch with as someone already so into this whole scene. (I recall someone making the very smart point that these particular shows are aimed at children, which seems a pertinent thing to bring up.) If Z and Blazar's dubs get people who otherwise couldn't be bothered to experience these great shows, I think that's only a good thing, when the versions they're experiencing are putting in the effort to live up to the originals.
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07-25-2023, 05:56 PM | #3875 |
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Squid Game dub-pilled me. I used to think live action dubs could only be like those old hong kong action movie dubs, or the cheesy godzilla dubs that everyone makes fun of. But nowadays the baseline quality for these dubs is actually pretty high.
My one trick to tell if it is an excellent dub, vs a great one: how many unnatural pauses in a sentence are there? We get it, the actor in the scene closed their mouth and the dub actor should not be talking during that bit, but did the localizer rewrite a sentence to fit the actor closing their mouth, or did they have the dub actor pause ... unnaturally in the middle of a sentence? It takes a lot more effort to rewrite a line to work with a live action actor’s mouth movements vs just having the dub actor pausing randomly while saying the line to make it work with the footage in the booth. I’m not mad about it, and that’s why I say it’s the difference between “great” and “excellent.” |
07-25-2023, 09:39 PM | #3876 |
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I am now down to the final five episodes of Ultraman Max and it looks like I'll be able to finish the series sooner than I thought. I am also up to episode 5 of Ultraman Trigger and I even inexplicably started watching Ultraman Decker with its first two episodes and that series is already off to a pretty good start. Once I'm done with Max, I'm planning to continue right where I left off on Ultraman Taro before jumping into either the first season of the Mega Monster Battle series or Ultraman Orb via streaming. I also watched the third episode of Ultraman Blazar both in Japanese and in English.
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07-26-2023, 03:41 AM | #3877 |
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So I watched my Shin Ultraman replacement disc. There were no code formatting errors and they subtitled the opening, but it's still not impressive. The subtitles often don't line up with what characters are saying, I counted at least 3 typos, and, as we've established, they're dubtitles.
Also, even though the original Japanese with subtitles did make the movie more enjoyable for me, I just didn't enjoy it that much overall. I still hate the structure of the film being made up of four only somewhat related sections, and I still think that the middle two stores (Zarab and Mefilas) are mostly unenjoyable, and unfortunately, they both felt like they came out of nowhere. That being said, I think the first and final acts are both fantastic - I just wish the middle felt more tied in with everything else going on. Overall, here's how I'd rank the Shin films: 1. Shin Godzilla 2. Shin Evangelion (Evangelion 3.0+1.0) 3. Shin Kamen Rider 4. Shin Ultraman
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07-28-2023, 08:04 PM | #3878 |
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Earth Garon with happy eyes is adorable.
Fantastic episode! Reminds me of that one Decker Episode, but still very good in its own right. Loving how the team dynamic works how Gento is knowledgeable in his own way as a Captain rather than just being the leader who gives people orders. Leviera is one insane kaiju design, very reminiscent of Nexus, and I'm loving the night fights as they really let Blazar shine (hah) and it's just nice to see every now and then. Next Episode: Another very Nexus Kaiju and a very Evangelion weapon primed and ready.
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07-28-2023, 08:06 PM | #3879 |
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Secretary Emi! It's amazing how much a difference glasses and parted hair can make!
Did they repurpose Greeza's vocals for Leviera? It even fights like Greeza, kinda. I really like the effect when it opens it's "mouth." Emi joined up at 17? So she went into the military instead of college? She always seemed kind of young, but I kind of wonder why she got into this. A strong sense of civic duty? "I have my ways" - Just some flexing from the Captain! Yasonubo's turn at bat with Earth Garon! I did think it was a little out-of-character for Emi to get so upset, but it was just acting. I do wonder what those Aquarium goers thought about that outburst. A lovers' spat? Sonezaki may be a guy who needs to meditate to his own theme song talking about how awesome he is, but he's not completely stupid. I like the design for that Space Beast. Ah, the old "create my own man-made Kaiju then sell off the deterrent so I can earn money and gain the respect of others while also planning my own army of Kaiju" plot. It's the job of the Captain to back up his subordinates and confront the real villain like the hero of the day, and we even get to see Gento fight hand-to-hand! I know Anri is their CQC expert, but Emi is no slouch in a fight. Her movements were so smooth and flawless! How do you fight a Kaiju that can disappear on you and you can barely get a hold of? Why, freeze it with Nitrogen of course! Emi and Earth Garon really come through for Blazar in this episode! Ahhh! Emi got roses for Gento's family out of gratitude! I wasn't sure if the team was aware he was married...although no surprise Emi knew one way or another. Next week: Anri episode and Godos unleashed! |
07-29-2023, 12:37 PM | #3880 |
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Episode 4 of Blazar was typically solid. Loved the focus on Emi's undercover work, love the blunt visual storytelling of the antagonist's scrapbook of his own greatness burning up after his evil plan falls apart (almost as much as I love Emi causally tossing the book on the ground before that), and I love that the whole story was only made possible because somebody lost track of important paperwork, because that gets right back to that sharp intent in the themes I mentioned talking about episode 2.
And speaking of communication, I'm really loving the currently wordless, kinda stealth buddy cop dynamic Gento and Blazar have? The idea of Blazar being the one who chooses when to transform especially is just brilliant; it's extremely endearing here seeing him all ready to fight while a surprised Gento hastily scrambles to engineer the usual window to run around a corner where nobody will see him do his thing. Like they just don't quite have this whole partnership thing down yet, which again, could make for a very satisfying arc depending on where the show takes it.
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