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06-24-2023, 05:10 AM | #1 |
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Keiwa and Michinaga are pitted against one another in a battle to the death.
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06-25-2023, 06:17 AM | #2 |
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Kekera has finally gotten his tragic Rider and it looks like Daichi is starting a cult.
Gotta say, I'm still not feeling Daichi as a reoccurring villain. While his plot to use the Jamato to gather intelligence is...Fine, it just still feels wildly out of character. He's gone from manipulative to world destroying levels of evil? It honestly feels more fitting for a nihilist like Da-Paan, but PunkJack is hogging the panda head so he couldn't be reused I wish Neon's visit with her father gave him some greater depth, but no. He's just devoid of any redeeming traits. I understand that they said his heart died with Akari, but still, this was a nice chance to have a real conversation with Neon. Shame. Anyway, the hints that someone with more desire could emerge and beat Geats is interesting. They're leading towards Keiwa, but his desire for world peace was for his sister, and I don't think "I want my sister back" is enough desire to truly beat out Ace's desire for a better world. Also, Neon calling Ace out for only referring to them as their Rider names was nice. I was wondering when he'd finally start using their real names.
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06-25-2023, 09:48 AM | #3 |
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Well, I've recovered from the tragic death of Sara last week. It was mostly all I could think about from that episode. I'm totally still pretty mad at Daichi and Kekera for orchestrating this and I hope they both get their due karma.
It's especially rough on Keiwa though and I think his reaction, while clearly unhealthy and self-destructive, is actually understandable and sympathetic at the same time. I can't blame him for losing his sense of justice, but I hope he can find it again. If only to prove Kekera wrong about his twisted vision of what a Kamen Rider should be. I'm not just talking about him losing Sara either. First Tycoon's ID Core is a campaign item and now his Final Form is Premium Bandai. Dude can't catch a break. It's surprising how much Keiwa can suppress his emotion when he wants to, like how he shows up to save Tsumuri like nothing happened before persuading her to grant his desire for power. We know he has a talent for manipulation, since he deceived both Ace and Giroli in Episode 16, but here we can see how he uses that for his own benefit. Like, he's aware he has this image as a pitiful loser and he's not above leveraging that. I actually don't mind Bujin Sword's head being repainted from Command, as I never liked that suit anyway. Honestly, Bujin Sword is my favorite Tycoon form. The narrower red eyes and the black armor solve the problem I had with the color clash of Ninja. The Raise Buckle is even better than Mk. III, love that unsheathing gimmick they brought back from the ZAIA Slashriser and Seiken SworDriver and the way the translucent blade highlights Tycoon's Core ID. It's no exchange for Sara, but I must admit that it's an awesome suit! Michinaga's also suffering in his own way. He feels like he has to kill the Jyamafied humans, as he believes there's nothing else he can do to stop their rampage. Until now, he's always destroyed his way through any problem, but this time it's hurting him to have to kill more innocents, probably bringing back bad memories of his actions in the Heaven and Hell game, which Sara was caught up in. If that wasn't bad enough, now Keiwa's guilting him over it and punishing him for Daichi's and Kekera's crimes. I definitely have to pity Michinaga a little. Tsumuri smiled when Win heroically declared he would protect her. Could she be starting to reciprocate his feelings? Why was she in such a hurry to change out of that dress though? I thought it looked good, better than her usual monochrome outfit anyway. Quote:
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Anyway, the hints that someone with more desire could emerge and beat Geats is interesting. They're leading towards Keiwa, but his desire for world peace was for his sister, and I don't think "I want my sister back" is enough desire to truly beat out Ace's desire for a better world.
Michinaga does that as well. It's quite common in recent shows, like Sophia from Saber, Horobi from Zero One, Geiz from Zi-O and Alain from Ghost.
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06-25-2023, 10:39 AM | #4 |
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Well, I watched two episodes at once. What can I say: divine powers are new to Ace, and therefore, like in the game of knocking the can, he is terribly incompetent. Let's forget that Sarah would have died even without the intervention of the DGP management and two bad supporters. Ace left the riders with a memory so they wouldn't lose their dreams and thus created the current Jamato-Daichi, who of course couldn't help but combine the mean with the terrible and take revenge on Sarah for the last game. Okay, Ace couldn't have predicted this, but what about this episode? He refuses to kill the parasites in the second stage because he hopes to cure them. I agree, not everyone can be Michinaga. But, instead of locking up the dangerous monster, Ace leaves it to roam the city and, as a result, Jamato, possibly harming civilians, dies at the hands of Buffa. It's more like not following principles or finding a better way, but more like wanting to throw off responsibility. Perhaps unconscious.
Keiwa and Michinaga in this regard act quite in accordance with their characters. They have always been opposites, blind idealism and cynicism. Therefore, Keiva does not understand that he is being pulled by the strings and that he himself could easily have been in Michinaga's place. Because Michinaga continues to kill Jamato and sees no other way. The Black Shogun suit is perfect.First of all, how completely opposite he is to Ace's final form. White fox - black tanuki. The combination of everything Geats did and owned is a dark reflection of that of Tycoon. Ace in Geats IX almost does not stop - Keiwa in the guise of Black Shogun barely moves. Yes, their duel should be great. The Neon family drama is simply painful to watch. It is clear that this is necessary to lead her to a revival, but I would prefer it not to be stretched out, but concentrated in one episode. The promo showed Tycoon defeating Daichi. It's so direct that you involuntarily expect a dirty trick. By the way, the monster form itself is terribly dim. If one day he returns as part of an extra in a big movie, then I will not be able to remember not only who he is, but even from which show. Although Sarah was meant to be sacrificed, she managed to become a truly living character and the last episode gave viewers the most emotional scene of the show, immediately overshadowing Ace's reunion with his mother. Therefore, of course, I want those responsible for her death to be punished. But whether they should be punished by the hands of her brother is a big question. P.S. But in the end, Tsumuri Takahashi still could not restrain himself in the end and hit the self-repetition. |
06-25-2023, 11:09 AM | #5 |
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Other than Shinji, Kouta, and Emu, seems that now Keiwa takes Aruto's traits too, of which what distinguishes him is the Ark-One part. Non-primary Riders are more susceptible to dark path even if they're as nice as most of them normally...
I've regularly said that it's not that Keiwa was weak to not achieve much since the Lamentation (JGP) arc, and actually it's addressed canonically.... of how Keiwa now feels powerless to fail to protect Sara, and acts on it to beg Tsumuri to give him the power that would make him unbeatable. Maybe I can feel less sour of this when it's addressed, and at least it'd be better than Zero-One of Aruto asking for weaker item after having Zero-Two. And I was worried that the shots may imply that Buffa is somewhat of a match to Tycoon Shogun, but I'm relieved that though it's prolonged, it's still one-sided on Shogun's part. Really bad timing for Michinaga to discard his Jamashin powers though... he should still keep it even when he's fighting the Jamatos. Should be when it's now shown that Keiwa isn't losing in the human fight against Michinaga albeit he's slightly sloppier. Though some people may ignore the equipment and think that Keiwa is stronger when he gives in to his darker impulses, rather than just a different item making the differences.... Character wise, seems that Keiwa's reason to make the world peaceful is to make sure that Sara can be safe on it. This actually makes the reason sound more selfish, but something that makes his actions all-encompassing but for certain one person. Which Kekera uses to claim he's a hypocrite. This is also present in many other characters in media, to work on improving the world for the sake of their loved ones only, of which it can make them occassionally disregard some people to achieve it, but Keiwa's someone who's also shown to be kind to anyone as well, but this aspect still affects him to feel that it's meaningless to protect others and improve the world if Sara's no longer in it, giving him some apathy in that time. Despite his condescending tone, Kekera still has some mentor aspects to point out that Kamen Riders don't give up... Though actually still not later, when Keiwa still confronts Michinaga regarding his other casualties, showing that he still cares about other people. Though he has remorse on it before, regardless if the victims can't be turned back (or at least from what he knows), Michinaga's still what I expected that he'd think that he'd still view the casualties as expendable for the end goal, which means he still carries the end justifies the means view to view good in statistics. Now though, his first victim Sara haunts him. Like Gaim again, a purple Rider called Michi gets their victim hallucinating him, symbolizing his conscience that likely forms his redemption arc. Overall Sara talks about how Michinaga focuses on destroying, rather than protecting, which addresses his previous reason of joining Ace's DGP. And so this is what Beroba meant of goading Michinaga into fighting the Jamatos, to taste the misery coming from his conscience. While the actual solution for Michinaga's argument of them can't be turned back isn't addressed yet, only Keiwa getting mad at him justifying Sara's death, at least Geats (for some reason using Magnum only) doesn't resort into killing the victims yet, and Neon would still think about saving Sara and the others while knowing they're incurable. So that debunks people's argument that any Riders in Michinaga position will also kill Sara, actually not. So now she learns about Sara's demise, from Ace, of which fills her with more self-loathing to also curse her powerlessness as a normal human that Sara and the others can't be saved. Well if you have only Beat, that'd not be enough either, as Keiwa shows. Though it's a good news for her that Ace calls her Na-Go cuz he's trying to remake her ID Core, with his DGP being made as typical world-saving Kamen Rider, at least enough to uplift her spirit. And she also seeks power in asking Kousei to turn her into Kamen Rider again. Thought her confrontation with Kousei was to talk about the Jamato secrets, if it's known why he's arrested, but actually no. Kousei's downfall continues in him being disposed despite being the leader, but he still only cares about enhancing his corporation and using Neon as a tool, as usual. Yeah, being the leader doesn't mean that people respect or admire you, it's not only him who can use others, they also can as well. Neon here connects about the ability to love with happiness, as Kousei is miserable all the time after losing Akari and turning cold. Dunno if some people's guess would be also right that to get true love, Neon should love herself too, with her having self-loathing. And it's hilarious that after Neon's speech, the scene cuts into a shop called "Loveless", a place to get Tsumuri's disguise. Though I like her usual outfit better, her hair beauty shines more in this one. Jit displays more characterization here, in contrast to Chirami, he's only concerned about getting the mission done, not caring about entertainment value, while always having a serious tense face. So Jit (with baton) also can have Ace on his ropes, albeit he gets more upper hand compared to Win, and later 1v2 them. A bit surprising when he can be more relaxed talking about Daichi's game, giving his thoughts on it. Beroba's now interested in joining forces with the DGP as it'd get the 2nd Goddess of Creation. More Orteca similarities, now Daichi's also starting a cult, likely phase 2 is only meant to transport them there. No one apparently realizes that the one making announcement about the Parasite Game is the Quiz King, like how no one's aware of Ace and Neon when they're saving people (unlike the fangirls on the shop).
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06-29-2023, 08:16 AM | #6 |
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Not about this episode, but a general thought on Geats. Since the disclosure of the true nature of DGP, I have been worried about the question of who is its cause, and, accordingly, the source of evil. And here's what I came up with.
We know little about the future, mainly from the words of Ziin, but it seems that there are no contradictions in them and the stories of other characters. The future is a world of artificially created people whose life is determined, up to the time of death. There is no place for strong emotions in the future and DGP was created to compensate for this. And here comes the first inconsistency. Why do artificially created people of the future need to initially experience strong emotions? There are two types of needs: external and internal. External ones are determined by the environment and if there are no strong emotions in the future, then people will not have a desire to experience them. Interest in them - yes, but nothing more. You don't feel like climbing trees or hunting mammoths, do you? And the Neanderthal had no desire to acquire a mobile. It's the same here. Internal needs, in turn, are determined by our genes, hormones, brain structure. And in our time, people with an irresistible craving for the inaccessible may well be born (and are being born). But the people of the future are created artificially, and very carefully. This means that if they have a desire for strong emotions, then it was inherent in them from the very beginning. And who else could do it, if not an organization with many employees, the ability to travel through time and control over the forces of the Goddess of Creation? This means that the DGP itself has created a need for itself, investing in the people of the future the desire for strong emotions. Therefore, they are the source of evil, and not the supporters. And it made me take a fresh look at Beroba. If Kekera's desire to mold Keiva into her ideal rider may be an external need, then Beroba, who enjoys the suffering of others, is clearly driven by internal ones. Her need is quite rare, most of the most terrible people in history were guided by other motives and desires. Such behavior of Beroba can be caused either by an internal deviation or trauma in childhood. From what we know about the future, there could not be a situation for childhood trauma (and do artificial people have a childhood? in principle. This means that the desire to make others suffer was inherent in Beroba. And here, too, it could not have done without DGP. Developing this idea, it is easy to come to the conclusion that DGP needs a Jamato suporter. If the monsters become too weak, defeating them will no longer bring strong emotions and hurt the show. But why invest in the development of Jamato by yourself, if you can create a sponsor for them? Simply by investing in one artificial person of the future a couple more forbidden desires, in addition to craving for strong emotions. And then this puts Beroba on the same level as Tsumuri, because even having rebelled against the DGP, both continue to play their assigned roles - the Navigator and the future Goddess for Tsumuri and the enemy of the riders for Beroba. So if I'm right, DreadBringer is wrong in calling Beroba the worst person on the show. At the very least, she can't be worse than the one who put those desires into her. For simplicity, I will assume that this is Sueru, but most likely the DGP has a separate man in a jacket for this job. Last edited by Mesnick; 06-29-2023 at 08:24 AM.. |
06-30-2023, 09:06 PM | #7 |
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Not much I can say here other than Bujin Tycoon is a cool design and the fact he has a standard (or at least, not a specialized toyetic) Katana for a weapon and the cape isn't something I was expecting, but very welcome.
I do feel like it's interesting to see how Tycoon and Buffa are more alike in their willingness to use the powers they despise to bring about their desires, which is a fitting theme for this show's premise. Of course, I'm also absolutely exhausted today, so I'm probably just spouting nonsense... Next Episode: No more Frog Form.
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It's especially rough on Keiwa though and I think his reaction, while clearly unhealthy and self-destructive, is actually understandable and sympathetic at the same time. I can't blame him for losing his sense of justice, but I hope he can find it again. If only to prove Kekera wrong about his twisted vision of what a Kamen Rider should be.
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Michinaga's also suffering in his own way. He feels like he has to kill the Jyamafied humans, as he believes there's nothing else he can do to stop their rampage. Until now, he's always destroyed his way through any problem, but this time it's hurting him to have to kill more innocents, probably bringing back bad memories of his actions in the Heaven and Hell game, which Sara was caught up in. If that wasn't bad enough, now Keiwa's guilting him over it and punishing him for Daichi's and Kekera's crimes. I definitely have to pity Michinaga a little.
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We can't really judge whether or not Daichi is OOC, since we don't know that much about him, other than he's an a**hole who would murder a lovable character. However, as Ace gave everybody their memories back but abolished desire granting from his DGP, that leaves Daichi in a desperate position where he has to use the Parasite Game instead, regardless of the apocalyptic side effects. Looks like Kekera isn't the funny frog man you thought he was either.
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Well, I watched two episodes at once. What can I say: divine powers are new to Ace, and therefore, like in the game of knocking the can, he is terribly incompetent. Let's forget that Sarah would have died even without the intervention of the DGP management and two bad supporters. Ace left the riders with a memory so they wouldn't lose their dreams and thus created the current Jamato-Daichi, who of course couldn't help but combine the mean with the terrible and take revenge on Sarah for the last game. Okay, Ace couldn't have predicted this, but what about this episode? He refuses to kill the parasites in the second stage because he hopes to cure them. I agree, not everyone can be Michinaga. But, instead of locking up the dangerous monster, Ace leaves it to roam the city and, as a result, Jamato, possibly harming civilians, dies at the hands of Buffa. It's more like not following principles or finding a better way, but more like wanting to throw off responsibility. Perhaps unconscious.
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Although Sarah was meant to be sacrificed, she managed to become a truly living character and the last episode gave viewers the most emotional scene of the show, immediately overshadowing Ace's reunion with his mother. Therefore, of course, I want those responsible for her death to be punished. But whether they should be punished by the hands of her brother is a big question.
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Such behavior of Beroba can be caused either by an internal deviation or trauma in childhood. From what we know about the future, there could not be a situation for childhood trauma (and do artificial people have a childhood? in principle. This means that the desire to make others suffer was inherent in Beroba. And here, too, it could not have done without DGP.
Developing this idea, it is easy to come to the conclusion that DGP needs a Jamato suporter. If the monsters become too weak, defeating them will no longer bring strong emotions and hurt the show. But why invest in the development of Jamato by yourself, if you can create a sponsor for them? Simply by investing in one artificial person of the future a couple more forbidden desires, in addition to craving for strong emotions. And then this puts Beroba on the same level as Tsumuri, because even having rebelled against the DGP, both continue to play their assigned roles - the Navigator and the future Goddess for Tsumuri and the enemy of the riders for Beroba. So if I'm right, DreadBringer is wrong in calling Beroba the worst person on the show. At the very least, she can't be worse than the one who put those desires into her. For simplicity, I will assume that this is Sueru, but most likely the DGP has a separate man in a jacket for this job. Maybe it's extended to Beroba and Kekera too.... both being newfound partners, has some similarities by being the more terrible one among the supporters who feeds off others' misery, but I think has some contrastings as well in how Kekera supports a Rider who wants to revive killed Riders - Beroba supports a Rider who wants to crush other Riders, Kekera limits his wrongdoings in what is meant to push Keiwa's "development - Beroba pulls no punches in any kind of evil deeds even frivolous and petty ones for misery, Kekera views misery as something to develop people - Beroba uses misery to demoralize people.
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Yeah consequences and outcomes aren't something that can be predicted, except if they have the power to do so, so honestly he shouldn't be held accountable for Daichi turning as the next Gardener; the Jamato can still likely continue due to Beroba, like perhaps the DGP's side of Samas recruiting someone new entirely like Jit, it may happen without Daichi. I also felt that the part of keeping second stage Jamato alive is something that the episode cut short, but I think still too early to judge Ace's decisions here, though he does say that he seeks to find cure to them - but at least like what many KR series teach, all lives are precious, not just the many, the infected ones don't have any less right to continue living as the one getting attacked.
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And you still can't spell her name right despite this.
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What is your problem of bolding the forumer you refer to while making up this shit? Why making up these stuff? This is just like someone grasping on straws to insist that a villain is really not that bad, for various reasons (like perhaps them being their favorite, feeling conflicted to like such a horrible character, etc.), and just similar to you grasping on straws to discredit Ace's actions like donating money to Taira's son before. And all of these are just your headcanons, so this can be just taken with a grain of salt regardless of how bold you feel in these, you're just spouting nonsense, unlike my claim that is based on what's actually happened on the show. And regardless explanations (usual "tragic backstory for villain" stuff for Beroba there) aren't excuses.
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This is just like someone grasping on straws to insist that a villain is really not that bad, for various reasons (like perhaps them being their favorite, feeling conflicted to like such a horrible character, etc.), and just similar to you grasping on straws to discredit Ace's actions like donating money to Taira's son before.
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