But he still was a rider because in Hibiki, riders and Oni were the same thing. So he was technically a rider as much as everyone else.

I know this but at the time of release it wasnt a Rider show as far as I know

*During initial planning and production
At release it was called "Kamen Rider Hibiki"

well how bout that. guess you really do learn something new every day.

That's like saying Haruto isn't a Rider because he's a Wizard.

For the 7425th time: Hibiki was ALWAYS a Kamen Rider show and they didn't change it for the release. It was a Rider show during planning AND production. There were talks of another show following Blade, but once the concept of "Hibiki" was made, it was also decided that it was a Kamen Rider show.
http://igadevil.tumblr.com/post/5532...u-mention-that

Well I've been corrected now it was all a misunderstanding of how the productions went. Besides, in Haruto's reveal he was called a Kamen Rider and went with the name Kamen Rider Wizard...unless im mistaken there too

As posted before, Hibiki was also always a Kamen Rider.

I am really bad about remembering that Kabuto exists. :lol

There are a lot of Heisei Rider shows where the term "Kamen Rider" is never actually used. Don't read too much into it.

I dun even care. I haven't watched Hibiki. I've never been interested in Hibiki. And I don't think I'll ever make the time to see it. I'm just relaying the popular, though apparently false, rumor about it.
I'm not always right :p