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LockonStratos 03-02-2017 12:51 AM
Eh... The problem with that is there are so many riders with vastly different aesthetics that you wouldn't even get anywhere close to good representation AND have good looking suits.

Orb's work because there are a lot less Ultras and they all share the same basic design so mixing them works pretty easily.

I mean, I'd still like to see that as a rider gimmick, just because of the potential insanity, especially if they go for some WEIRD combos. Like, Gills/Fourze weird... no, Shin/Fourze, so you can have all the things that can cut anything.

Switchblade 03-02-2017 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SloopSloop (Post 673214)
So, I finally got around to watching the Brave special, and I was surprised to see Ouja's blank form appear for a second, as I assumed that suit was probably deemed minor enough to get rid of.

That got me thinking, how often are Rider suits actually destroyed? I know Gaoh's suit was recycled for Yuuki, The First/Next suits were recycled for the gold and silver riders in that one Den-O movie, and Gills was ruined by water damage.

It seems like they keep most everything for future crossovers, so are there any other suits that got destroyed, and is there any insight into why a suit is destroyed/recycled like that?
I remember hearing that the Another Agito suit was also lost. I would assume that Toei is trying harder to keep major Rider suits around now, though, given how many team-ups and crossovers they're doing these days. I suspect that if something like the Blade or OOO suit got heavily damaged Toei would construct a new one pretty quickly.

Sunred 03-02-2017 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LockonStratos (Post 673217)
You'd think there'd be some sort of catalogue detailing which suits still exist and which have been lost to decay. Maybe there's one in the Japanese side of the fanbase.
I remember seeing photos way way back(like 2000ish) on Japanese forums and personal tokusatsu fan sites where people would upload photos of the vehicles just being dumped next to other busted rigs or garbage bags. I guess the mentality is why bother keeping this when we can rebuild it if needed. Again regarding why they do not preserve them is clearly personal speculation but it is sad they are not opting to auction them off to fans who have disposable income of such magnitude, etc.

henshinzero 03-02-2017 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LockonStratos (Post 673247)
Eh... The problem with that is there are so many riders with vastly different aesthetics that you wouldn't even get anywhere close to good representation AND have good looking suits.

Orb's work because there are a lot less Ultras and they all share the same basic design so mixing them works pretty easily.

I mean, I'd still like to see that as a rider gimmick, just because of the potential insanity, especially if they go for some WEIRD combos. Like, Gills/Fourze weird... no, Shin/Fourze, so you can have all the things that can cut anything.
I thought I can see the main hero use the best combination of rider forms from the Showa & Heisei/Neo-Heisei eras.

The hero won't travel through dimensions like Decade. He'll be helping the real deal riders.

Foundation X can be the enemy.

Powerman293 03-02-2017 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Switchblade (Post 673278)
I remember hearing that the Another Agito suit was also lost. I would assume that Toei is trying harder to keep major Rider suits around now, though, given how many team-ups and crossovers they're doing these days. I suspect that if something like the Blade or OOO suit got heavily damaged Toei would construct a new one pretty quickly.
Considering Blade's helmet is yellowing pretty badly, I imagine they only do it when necessary.

LockonStratos 03-02-2017 03:32 PM
Okay, watching Go-Busters made me think of something, are there any Riders with more of a grappling/wrestling style?

I mean, I can understand why it's uncommon compared to Sentai, Rider's more ornate and complex suits probably wouldn't hold up to too much roughhousing of that kind, but I was wondering if there's one that does that I'm forgetting.

SloopSloop 03-02-2017 04:18 PM
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I remember hearing that the Another Agito suit was also lost.
It's in the upcoming Gorider special, so unless they rebuilt it I don't think so.

I am wondering if Agito's Shining form suit might have had an unfortunate demise though, mainly due to the decision to have him in Burning form alongside a group of final form riders in Cho Super Hero Taisen. Would be really unfortunate if they lost a primary rider's final form suit.

Spiteface 03-04-2017 03:33 PM
I thought of the Agito suits, Gills was the one that was lost...

SloopSloop 03-05-2017 06:41 PM
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I thought of the Agito suits, Gills was the one that was lost...
It is. Another Agito is still around, and the Shining Form thing is just speculation on my part regarding an odd decision in the newest movie.

On the topic of weird Orb-style rider combos, since that sounds fun to come up with:
Core/Aqua
Verde/Meteor
Chalice/Heart
Accel/Lazer
Zeronos/Orga/ZeroDrive
Birth/Necrom
Cyclone/Jok-...Oh.

Don't really know how it would work either, but I'd like to see it as the next anniversary season.

GoldenXtreme 03-11-2017 09:21 PM
I don't suppose anyone has a handy way for me to get the HD Over-time subs for Drive episodes 29, 30, 31, 34, 35, and 36? The torrent is utterly dead for this handful of episodes and Over-time isn't accepting reseed requests right now.


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