Not I!!

This episode won me, if only because Specter's Nobunaga is sweet!

Also they both finally did a Rider kick "properly".

I haven't even seen Spectre's Henshin, or even any characterization with him.

I'm not even considering "giving up" until at least around the time of the next Sentai's debut episode.

I haven't.
Mainly because I'm curious as to where it's going.

Nope. I'm actually liking it far more than I did Drive at this point.

Why give up on a show that hasn't even really started? I mean, the first 5 episodes usually give very little of an image what the show is like in the long run.

If Specter didn't show up in the episode, I would've dropped it.

why is there so much sensationalism on this season?

it's only been 5 episodes!
RELAX

It's just a question.

Like...relax.

no, it's a bunch of questions have been getting asked since Ghost started.

like "is Ghost turning out to be like Drive?"
"is this guy like Chase?"
"are the toy sales not good?"
"has anyone dropped it yet?"

it's just sensationalism. it's only been five episodes. Drive had fuck nothing going on in it's first five episodes.

While I would argue that in retrospective Drive did have quite a lot going on in it's first five episodes, I do agree that those questions start to get annoying. 5 episodes are just waaaaay too early to judge a show already. Especially because it takes many seasons at least 25 episodes or more to fully get in gear (no pun intended).

Yes, a bunch of questions asked over a period of time of about a month by different people. You're making this out to be a bigger deal than it actually is, imo.

exactly. it's just too short a time to be asking those kinds of things. like, at the very least 10 episodes would be a better time to ask these questions.

Well I think the amount of episodes we are in is enough to judge if one wants to continue watching a show. You seen pretty much what the show's general atmosphere will be and what characters you'll be following, pretty much how the shows set up.

I do think it is fair to judge Ghost already, and personally it's underwhelming. The fights are too short and keep changing forms so much, it's like take a break. The episodes seem to try to cram to much information instead of flowing it out easily. It's as if the writers forget they have 45~ish episodes to develop a story.(which is the problem with most Toku.)

again, you're judging the first five episodes of a 45ish episode series.

Gaim and W barely had anything going on in their first few episodes.
like, you can judge the atmosphere, but that doesn't mean it can't improve.

hell, nearly everyone who watched Drive said it got better in the 20s.

Still it's enough to for a person to see if they want to stick with it. I do the same thing with countless other shows. Doesn't matter if there are hundreds of episodes, or a couple, the first few episodes are enough for a person to judge.

I agree with Hero. I usually watch 5 episodes of any show to see if it grabs me and if I want to follow it. If it doesn't I don't watch it anymore.

As for Ghost, nope, I'm loving it.

I say get up to episode 6 and see if you want to see how the shows goes or not. I drop Drive since I didn't like the story or the characters expect for Chase. I find it stupid that it takes 20 episodes for Drive to be good. No series should take over 20 episodes to "get good".

8 episodes has always been the length for my trial period.

enough time for setup and seeing if the series is actually starting to pick up or stay stagnant.

and it all depends on if the 8th episode gets me to want to continue.

and the 20 episodes thing involving Drive was more meant to say "you shouldn't say the show is getting stale, or doesn't look like it is picking up" at the very least for a 5 episode mark.

I feel that with Kamen Rider, the 20 episode mark is more of a point to fully grasp the show as usually, there is some change in tone or pacing of the show around that time. Back when I started KR, I never expected OOO to go in the direction it did at about half of the series (the whole purple medal plot etc.). Especially when individual character plots are mostly only fully revealed in the second half of the show.

Also, some shows start off feeling meh, but really take a turn for the better when you can put the puzzle pieces together at the end. The first halves of Blade and Drive were not very amazing when I watched them the first time, but boy, they did get a lot more interesting when you know what those things lead up to.

Also, I remember a lot of people complaining about Gaim during the first 20 or so episodes for being so (relatively) light-hearted and people were annoyed by the dancing and then BOOM. In the second half of the show everything just went to hell(heim). Judging from that, if you dropped Gaim at episode 5, thinking the tone of the first half was the general tone of the series, you miss out on quite a lot just for misjudging what you saw in the first few episodes. (on a side note, the darker events do start in episode 12, but the plot doesn't thicken as much as during the 20's).

A question to everyone that looked more into Ghosts designs than I did. All of the Masks are meant to represent something but what is Tutankhamen supposed to be? I cant quite figure that one out.

Apparently Sickles and the Nile river. I don't see it either though XD

Sickel I could see but not a River :lol

Yeah, Nile doesn't make much sense, but he's got sickles for sure.

Where did the nile thing come from? It's always been a pair of sickles and nothing more.

I think the central part is some kind of Egyptian river plant.

I get where you're coming from, (I guess it could be papyrus or something? Seems kind of stubby for that, though) but I really I don't think the blue area is supposed to be anything. In fact, suggesting things that probably aren't even there will just confuse people even more. :p

The wiki says so. The wiki says a lot of silly things.

I feel like 20 episodes for a show to get good is still too long. I think by episode 6 or 7 is a good episode market to see if you want to keep on going or not. I drop Attack on Titan at episode 6 because I thought the show was dull and I hated everyone in the show. I didn't want to finish it.

So far I like Ghost and Yurusen is my least favorite thing about the show so far. Every time I see his character, I feel like that he is just there and his character is not good as someone like Ankh so far. I also don't like his character design. He feels and looks like a Yokai Watch character if you ask me.

Yurusen is kind of a campy designed character. But so was that one little butterfly winged teddy bear creature from Card Capture Sakura. And look at what he became! Maybe Yurusen will have an alternate form later in the series?

Cerberus.

Who looks more like St. Mark's Lion than a Cerberus.

What was the characters American name? I can't remember.

Cerberus. The name didn't change because Nelvana wasn't stupid like 4Kids and tried renaming everyone because "American kids can't enjoy anything if it doesn't take place in 'MURICA!"

However, then they tried making a cute mahou shojo show into equal parts Shojo and Shonen. Which does not work.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rs3gUQ5wGxs

I'm also not a fan of the Ganma so far in Ghost. They feel kinda weak and I can't help to feel like watching a rehash of the Phantoms from Wizard. Not to mention some of the designs for them feel weak. I felt like Gaim and Drive had cooler looking monsters of the week so far.

>Gaim
>Monster of the week

uuuuuuhhhhhh.......

They may not had monster of the week all of the time, but some episodes did from what I can recall. Still, the creature designs in that show did look better in my opinion.

their creature designs were super limited.

they had like, less than 20 iirc.

Why is there a doll head in the soup?

The Overlords were MoTW for a time