So you posted a racist design because you don't like how his KR Black looked? What?

All I did was just post an example of why Ishinomori's designs aren't inherently good. Am I not allowed to provide of example of one?

Like I don't care too much about how his KR Black looks. All I did was mention that just because Ishinomori designed something doesn't automatically make it good.

But you know what, that was in pretty poor taste now that I think about it, so my bad. Sorry.

...Huh?

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I edited the picture out. Started to feel a lot of guilt about mentioning 008's original design being an example of why Ishinomori's designs weren't inherently good. I still stand by the fact that I don't think that just because Ishinomori designed something, that it means it's good, which is why I kept my post the same, just no picture.

I will admit that it might've been an overreaction to the topic, so that's on me.

It's okay, I probably overreacted too. I just think that's in an entirely different realm to quality

Sorry, I saw the pic of Batta Man Black and thought it equated to it being somehow racist.

That's entirely fair, yea. The quality of the stories really has nothing to do with the quality of designs to begin with. That's on me for not really considering that.

Designs do feed into quality, mind -- but the KR Black manga in particular is often lauded by fans who have read it as the definitive version of Black, nailing the dark tone more than the show did with a more deeply tragic ending. For something so iconic and such a cult classic I can definitely see why they went with homaging that -- and if nothing else, it certainly gives us something more different for our TV screens than a reboot of Black was; and will likely fit the more adult rating more appropriately. I also actually didn't know that's what Black looked like in the manga? It certainly makes me appreciate the Black Sun design far more

Shame for me to hear that Shadow Moon is a Rider now, but maybe that has intention behind it more than just naming any vaguely relevant armoured character a Rider.

Shirakura did say in the event that Shadowmoon (and SHADOWMOON) should be considered riders now because everyone else saw him as a rider anyways, and he has long since kept flip flopping between being one and not being one.

That's pretty dumb, no less because Tackle still isn't considered a Rider. The whole point of the name Kamen Rider within the story is that it's a name Kotaro gives himself; and Golgom straight up still call him Black Sun most of the time