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SPLIT LIP · 09-03-2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface

I'm not sure you can say that Gaim never had to compromise. In the end, he achieved his goals by sacrificing others. That's pretty much what Kouta had been fighting against the entire time, but he still had to compromise that to win. If anyone can be said to have never compromised in their ideals, it was probably Kaito--though he of course didn't come out on top.

I meant in not sacrificing the world. He believed there was an option that wouldn't end with the world taken over, and he was right despite everyone telling him there wouldn't be.

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Originally Posted by SanoBaron

I think Agito was a good dark show because it went into things like what makes people human

And yet not a single person in the show really acted like one.

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and how can you say that the characters weren't emotional?

Because they almost never showed a genuine emotion that wasn't a one-track overdone charicature? (dear Gills: stop screaming. Screaming is not a character)

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Shouichi had plenty of reactions to things,

Like what? Because I made it 47 episodes into Agito before I just could not take it anymore, and Shouichi had more compassion for his damn tomatoes than for the dozens of people the Unknowns killed. And when he did have compassion for another human? it was only because they meant something to him. He was totally selfish and disconnected.

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and don't get me wrong, I never said Gaim wasn't dark or that Gaim was bad, just that Agito had darker elements in more ways.

Agito had darker elements, but they were also less mature. Y'know, Family Guy has plenty of death and violence in it. More than Agito did.

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I mean, nobody in Gaim commited suicide. or death by seaweed.

No, but they did kill their own friends, get crushed to death, blown up, get thrown off buildings, etc. The difference is Gaim had suitable justification for those things and they served a purpose besides just being shock value. They were natural steps in the story, not done simply to be "dark."

09-03-2015, 06:04 PM	#1520
SPLIT LIP I'm an agile cat. Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,033	Quote: Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface I'm not sure you can say that Gaim never had to compromise. In the end, he achieved his goals by sacrificing others. That's pretty much what Kouta had been fighting against the entire time, but he still had to compromise that to win. If anyone can be said to have never compromised in their ideals, it was probably Kaito--though he of course didn't come out on top. I meant in not sacrificing the world. He believed there was an option that wouldn't end with the world taken over, and he was right despite everyone telling him there wouldn't be. Quote: Originally Posted by SanoBaron I think Agito was a good dark show because it went into things like what makes people human And yet not a single person in the show really acted like one. Quote: and how can you say that the characters weren't emotional? Because they almost never showed a genuine emotion that wasn't a one-track overdone charicature? (dear Gills: stop screaming. Screaming is not a character) Quote: Shouichi had plenty of reactions to things, Like what? Because I made it 47 episodes into Agito before I just could not take it anymore, and Shouichi had more compassion for his damn tomatoes than for the dozens of people the Unknowns killed. And when he did have compassion for another human? it was only because they meant something to him. He was totally selfish and disconnected. Quote: and don't get me wrong, I never said Gaim wasn't dark or that Gaim was bad, just that Agito had darker elements in more ways. Agito had darker elements, but they were also less mature. Y'know, Family Guy has plenty of death and violence in it. More than Agito did. Quote: I mean, nobody in Gaim commited suicide. or death by seaweed. No, but they did kill their own friends, get crushed to death, blown up, get thrown off buildings, etc. The difference is Gaim had suitable justification for those things and they served a purpose besides just being shock value. They were natural steps in the story, not done simply to be "dark." Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 09-03-2015 at 06:14 PM..