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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

Yea, the stakes have sure been raising....when our main character has died, like, TWICE NOW ever since he was turned into Ghost(3 counting the Movie), and has still been revived...

The show was never trying to fake the audience out any of the times Takeru died. It was faking the characters out. Akari spells this out for the audience in episode 42. It felt real to them. Which is what matters, because it allows you to see how everybody (including Takeru!) deals with something that heavy. It's dramatic because of that, not because of any suspense. It's perfectly reasonable no matter how much fun it is to joke about.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

Don't get me wrong, I get that Adel is getting stronger & all, and he technically continued Demia before it completely failed, but still....the buildup towards this conclusion was honestly sloppy.

Indeed it was! I will absolutely not deny this, but I think some of you are really overselling how bad Ghost is.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

LOL REALLY?!! You SERIOUSLY don't see the difference in writing of the two shows & which has more quality?!

Of course I see the differences in how they're written. I'm not stupid. Gaim has a largely different set of problems and the flaws it has bother me way more than the flaws Ghost has. That's all there is to it. I really would not consider one to be much better than the other though.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

Gaim, which had a continuous plot, a cohesive storyline & a main character who actually goes through some CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?!

There isn't a single Kamen Rider show that doesn't have all those things to some extent.

I don't think there are many stories in general without those three things.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

With Kouta, the writers made it very clear that they were emphasizing Kouta to grow mature. Heck, Urobochi made it a point that his show's theme was kids growing into adulthood...

Yeah, and Ghost has made it just as clear they're emphasizing how Takeru becomes stronger because of his relationships with others. It's been that way from the start.

The whole point of the heroic Eyecons is to be something Takeru aspires to. He starts talking directly to them and they each give him advice he needs. That episode after he gets Mugen that someone asked what the point was a couple pages back? That's him cementing how much he's grown. He's now the one imploring them to grow stronger.

The reason he can see people's memories, which, again, the show explicitly spells out in no uncertain terms, is so that he can connect with them emotionally. Hence why Mugen has attacks based on emotions in the first place.

The single most crucial part of Takeru's character, especially at this point, is how empathetic he is. That's what separates him from other Rider protagonists.

I get if that's too sugary for your tastes or whatever, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't there.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

....But how does watching all these emotions being displayed by others benefit him as a character?!

Which brings me to this. He feels things when the people around him feel things. Gaim even had a similar moment in episode 5, where Kouta gets the courage to become Gaim again after seeing how Micchi refuses to give up against Baron, and he then gives Kaito a little speech summing up the lesson he learned from that while beating him up.

This is why I maintain they're similar characters. There's a lot of overlap between them.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

He hasn't gone through anything that has challenged his ideals & made him have to question himself.

And this is just flatly wrong. The whole debut of Grateful revolved around him completely losing faith in the idea of making nice with the Ganma after seeing what their world is like. He refuses to help Makoto protect Alain because he's "just a Ganma". The Eyecons abandon him because of this dramatic shift in attitude. His friends then help him to regain his faith in his ideals and the Eyecons come back to him.

This is what I'm saying. This isn't subtext. I'm not reading into this too much. It's what the whole entire show has always been about.

Just curious here, but do you find Kenzaki from Blade bland too? Because if you do I won't have to be the only one telling you how mistaken you are about the main characters in Kamen Rider.

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Originally Posted by TheGloryXros

I know I'm gonna get flack for this, but I think we need another Tsukasa type person for our main protagonist.

I also would love to see a third generation Takumi, but the characters we are getting are just as good.

I hope I'm not coming off too aggressive because it really is fine to not like Ghost, and I don't consider it unreasonable to say it's kind of bad. There are flaws to hate, and if it just plain isn't your style then that's also fine, but none of that makes it the utter trainwreck you seem to think it is, and I absolutely think Takeru is not one of those flaws.