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06-15-2023, 12:50 AM
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Boy, I
really really really
gotta push back on this interpretation. So much of the Kagerou/Daiji story is about how Kagerou comes from Daiji, and that viewing Kagerou as somehow separate from (and independent of) Daiji risks misdiagnosing Daiji's emotional issues. That's why things are real bad right now! Because Daiji's like I Defeated Kagerou, when Kagerou was only ever a manifestation of Daiji's deep-seated resentment and jealousy! So Daiji is unprepared for another descent into rage-filled judgment of Ikki!
It's just being human to feel things and emotions such as jealousy, happiness, sadness, anxiety, angry, etc. You're thinking that someone having self-loathing, jealousy, or fear means there's something wrong within them? Because it's not (inherently) and feelings/emotions aren't "not okay" to be felt. What's determines it is how you act and handle those feelings. It's not that having resentment is inherent problem in Daiji, but it starts becoming a problem when he starts turning into dictator's accomplice and self-righteously ignoring others' points of view. And for now Daiji's still a different person from Kagerou that, Kagerou was a malicious being enjoying others' suffering especially those he targets, though he can keep those that can give him enjoyment alive, while Daiji is self-righteous zealot who has with us or against us approach - as if losing Kagerou puts Daiji too much on the order side (chaos isn't inherently bad - which Kagerou provides). And would you think that if Daiji doesn't have these issues, Kagerou will perish not by him defeating them in battle? Unless you do take into account regarding what doses those feelings have in someone (it does sound that having feelings are inherent problem for Daiji before).
Other than that, can you give your thoughts to my older replies here?
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Mystery Episode 1
- even though Ikki does save the day by seeing the best in monsters too...)
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Yeah, the moral beacons of justice in Kamen Rider is often shown to be the type who see the best in people. But I honestly hate it when mistrusting or thinking someone's lying is considered unheroic. Which is where I don't necessarily view idealism and kindness as one-part, of which the former is your worldview, yeah, the part of seeing the best, while the latter is an action, to do good to others. I don't want for goodness to look even more bad (and stupid/blind) and got discouraged. Being good and being mistrustful aren't mutually exclusive. Good people can be just as discerning and mistrustful as any hardened, gruffy character but they feel no obligation to wear their healthy sense of skepticism on their sleeve in plain view. At that point, all one has to do is keep their wits about them and observe.
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You've said before regarding how you disagree with Hiromi's recklessness, which I do too, and, there are some people who claim at this point Daiji becomes "too heroic" here for his self-destructive approach and that gets on my skin. Even though it's true that Kagerou is needed here to balance out Daiji's traits, but if it's about Kagerou being calm and calculating, then it'd not be an evil trait, it's just using rational thinking, good or evil depends if it's used for strategy against bad guys or to scheme.
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