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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 15- "Escaped Granute!" Discussion
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12-15-2024, 05:20 AM
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Zolda
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Kenzou addresses Nyelv casually, so it's very likely that they've already known for quite a long time. It's was definitely Nyelv who supplied Kenzou with a sample of a Granute's internal organ in episode 6. My (outlandish) speculation in episode 6 thread
here
about Kenzou being one of Nyelv's human disguises was already proven wrong in episode 8 when Hanto checked Kenzou's stomach, but my hypothesis about the connection between Kenzou and Nyelv was quite correct. He's also giving a new sample to Kenzou in this episode, which means that there's a possibility that another human (Sachika?) is going to be implanted with the Granute's internal organ. Nyelv addresses himself and Kenzou as "we researchers" @ 00:40, which means that perhaps Nyelv presents himself as a human when he's been corresponding with Kenzou, and has never revealed his real identity as a Granute to Kenzou. But, if so, like I mentioned last week in episode 14 thread
here
, have Kenzou, a person of intellect with common sense, logic, and supposedly normal, healthy reasoning ability, ever wondered how the heck Nyelv, who has presented himself as a mere human, has been able to get a boatload of crucial information and resources about Granutes? Hasn't he ever suspected that he could be manipulated by Nyelv when he's given the crucial information and resources about Granutes by Nyelv all this time? Nyelv calling himself and Kenzou as "we researchers" and offering him an exchange of information make it look like they're equal in epistemic position, but I can safely say that it's 100% wrong. Nyelv is a Granute who is not only able to disguise himself as a human, but he's also one of the top 3 members of Stomach, a very secretive organization, while Kenzou is just a human. So, there's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge asymmetry of information between them. It's more than likely that Nyelv has been manipulating Kenzou.
And vice versa, Nyelv has only been supplying Kenzou with crucial information and resources about Granutes, and it was Kenzou himself who built the Valen Buster. Have Nyelv, a person of equal intellect with common sense, logic, and supposedly normal, healthy reasoning ability, ever wondered how the heck Kenzou, a mere hobbyist nerd and self-proclaimed "Granute researcher" who works in a crummy office, is able to build the Valen Buster, a very complex device, all by himself only with his own money without external financial support at all? Nyelv is supported by Stomach, so it makes sense if he's been able to do everything he's been doing, but Kenzou is seemingly a lone wolf who is supported by no organization, so how the heck Nyelv has never wondered about that glaring fact? It makes no sense at all if only Nyelv needs a financial support from a big, secretive organization (Stomach), but Kenzou doesn't. It's even weirder if Kenzou is also financially supported by Stomach because it'd have opened a bigger can of worms. If they're indeed equal in financial capabilities, then the only thing that can make the story makes sense is that they both should be supported by 2 separate big organizations, with Kenzou being supported by another organization (the Granute police department or other law enforcement agencies) like I've hypothesized since episode 50 of KR Gotchard, or at least by Stomach as well.
In the scene @ 08:05, Nyelv shows his non-humanity when he's baffled how humans are becoming joyful from eating snacks (a cup of pudding and a chocolate bar), so it's very likely that Kenzou has already known that Nyelv is a Granute in human disguise. Sooooo, Kenzou has been working with/for Nyelv fully knowing that Nyelv is a Granute, which means that Kenzou is fully aware of the fact that he's just one of Nyelv's goons tasked with manipulating Hanto into transforming into KR Valen. So, 99% of Kenzou's knowledge about Granutes is likely acquired when working with/for Nyelv. That explains how he always knows waaaaayyyyy too much. If Kenzou is indeed Nyelv's human goon, then all my questions above are pretty much answered. It also means that the answer to my question above about who funded Kenzou's researches on Granutes is quite clear: It's funded by Stomach themselves, via Nyelv.
TLDR:
Kenzou = Nyelv's lackey, although he might get a redemption later and defect from Stomach and decide to work with Dente.
Shouma is giving the Bushel RG to Hanto @ 02:16. And Hanto has
still
not suspected how Shouma is able to get so many Gochizous in no time? Has he ever considered the possibility that the RG's are created by Shouma himself? Also, in episode 14 @ 09:39 it was shown right in front of Hanto's two eyes that Shouma understood the Gochizou's language, so by that moment Hanto should've been 99,999% sure that Shouma is not a normal human. That scene in episode 14, where Shouma was also shown to chose to go to the Mizoguchi warehouse after reading Shita & Jeebh's ransom note, not the station where the explosion occurred, should've alerady informed him of Shouma's true nature as a non-human. I've been hypothesizing that the plot of the main conflict between Hanto and Shouma in later episodes would not be about Hanto finding out about Shouma's identity as a Rider, but about Hanto finding out about Shouma's identity as a human-Granute hybrid who might also have been the Wolf Granute who kidnapped his mom 18 years ago. Hanto would likely be very surprised when he finally found out about it, which would mean that his plot is an idiot plot. Hanto: "So, you're not a human, Shouma?!" Me: "No shit, Sherlock."
In the scene @ 08:46 Nyelv decides to experiment with a cup of pudding he received from Kenzou earlier and says that it'd also suit "him" while reviewing some kind of a white paper/schematics. This could mean that he's planning to make a male character a Rider, and that male character is likely Jeebh like I hypothesized last week in episode 14 thread
here
. I have a hypothesis that the rumored KR Vlam is likely Jeebh. Although there's still a lower possibility that Lango or even Lage 9 could be the one who transforms into KR Vlam.
The crab Granute says @ 09:38 that he's not going to get involved with Dark Snacks again and wants to leave Stomach, although he's doing it not out of honesty, but in order to manipulate Shouma and Hanto. The crab Granute is telling his sob story in order to gain Shouma's sympathy, and yes, like I hypothesized last week, the conflict between Shouma and Hanto is indeed due to Hanto not sharing Shouma's belief in the crab Granute's sob story.
Lage 9 is debuting his job @ 14:05 at a court room, although as revealed @ 14:23 he's not working as the procurement supervisor, but just as another part-timer, so the procurement is still supervised by Lango. His modus operandi is very brazen. He doesn't even bother hiding, waiting, and kidnapping humans discreetly. He's simply licking all humans in the room, and posses the very very
very
convenient power of making all the freaked out humans in the room make happy faces, so all the Hito Pressed humans he's collecting there are high-quality ones with no exception. Him collecting so many high-quality Hito Pressed humans so easily in such a very short time would likely make him the new rockstar within Stomach. As he said himself in the preview section @ 23:08, he'd likely be quickly promoted to higher position in later episodes. He could even be scheming to topple Lango's position and consolidate power for himself. If my hypothesis is correct, then he could be the Shinkuro Isaka/Weather Dopant of this story. What a very very
very
convenient power!
The crab Granute is doing a cheap farce with 2 of Jeebh's agents in order to trap Shouma/KR Gavv @ 18:20. Shouma/KR Gavv who has just found out that he's duped by the crab Granute all along says @ 19:19 that he wants to believe that there are Granutes who don't attack humans. What the heck, Shouma???
There
are
clean Granutes. Hasn't he already known that Dark Snacks are just expensive, novelty, recreational drug for those who have enough money, not a staple food that all Granutes must consume in order to survive? Dark Snacks being only drug consumed by less than 5% (or perhaps even much less than that) of the Granute population is already more than enough a proof that there are Granutes who don't consume Dark Snacks. Heck, the Stomach family members even very rarely consume Dark Snacks, because any drug lord worth his salt will never consume the drugs he's selling, ever. Why can't Shouma connect the dots already? There's no ethical dilemma at all. Shouma's idiotic statement in this scene only established him as a character who has room temperature IQ. As usual, it's blatant idiocy. The plot in this story is virtually impossible to progress or even start in the first place, unless key characters like Bouche, Shouma, Hanto, etc do the most illogical, irrational things with zero common sense. Bouche's utterly stupid, irrational, nonsensical decision as told by Dente in episode 5 @ 09:50 had already proven that this story is blatantly an idiot plot.
As shown @ 22:20, the crab Granute is actually more than capable of taking defeating Hanto/KR Valen. Sooooooooo, why the heck didn't he do it in episode 14 @ 13:31 when Hanto ambushed him at a vacant lot? Why the heck did he do nothing and decide to give an infodump to Hanto instead, who wasn't even transformed? Don't know! If the crab Granute did to Hanto in episode 14 what he's doing in this scene, then he'd have capture Hanto/KR Valen alive much earlier. What a dumb Granute, or rather, what a dumb story. Hanto, being the only human implanted with a Granute's internal organ, is likely captured to be experimented on by Nyelv in order to gain valuable data required to finish the Driver he's been developing as shown in the preview section @ 23:09. Like Shouma's asking @ 21:58, Jeebh's agents are involved in this farce likely because earlier, off-screen in this episode Jeebh was promised by Nyelv a new power as a retaliation to Shouma/KR Gavv who killed Shita in episode 14 last week.
Another dumb thing in this scene is when Shouma/KR Gavv in his strongest form at the moment (Caking form) is having a hard time fighting Jeebh's 2 agents, which is shown when he's even required to do the Caking Breaking finisher to kill them. Shouma/KR Gavv in Caking form managed to overwhelm both Shita and Jeebh, and even managed to kill Shita in episode 14, but he's having a hard time killing Jeebh's agents in this episode? Gosh, this gotta be the earliest instance of nerfing in this franchise so far. I think I can see the rationale of nerfing KR Gavv Caking form in this scene: Shouma/KR Gavv in his Caking form could easily defeat the crab Granute, but if he did it, then it's impossible for the crab Granute to defeat Hanto/KR Valen like I elaborated above. TLDR: The crab Granute defeated by Shouma/KR Gavv in his Caking form = Hanto/KR Valen not defeated by the crab Granute = Hanto not likely kidnapped = No plot for the next episode. Heavy-handed writing at its finest after (God forbid) Geats!
Next week:
The debut of KR Valen Bushel form.
The debut of the unfinished look of Nyelv's new Driver. I really like the color combination of metallic dark blue, metallic orange, and metallic yellow, and it looks much cooler and less gaudy than the Henshin Belt Gavv. How does it work? The existence of a gear on the left side of the Driver hints that it might also feature a crank lever on the user's right-hand side. The crank lever might work like Sclash Driver's up-down crank lever, not rotary ones like on the Build Driver/Evol Driver and Henshin Belt Gavv.
Is it also permanently attached to the user's body like the Henshin Belt Gavv? Is the user also required to get his Gavv permanently modified like Shouma's red Gavv? I think so, because Gochizous are supposed to be consumed by a Granute via a Gavv. Also, does it also have the ability to produce Gochizous? Shouma is able to produce Gochizous because he's a human-Granute hybrid. So, if Nyelv's new Driver is intended to be used by a Granute, then how would the user be able to produce Gochizous? I don't think Nyelv, Jeebh, or anyone who uses that Driver is planning to be dependent on Shouma and be forced to kidnap Gochizous all the time. Nyelv's new Driver would likely contain a built-in sample of human genetics/DNA extracted from Hanto in order to enable a Granute user to produce Gochizous. If Jeebh (or other characters) as the user of Nyelv's new Driver is indeed implanted with human DNA, it'd be ironic if they experience the gradual genetic transformation from Granute into human, the reverse of Hanto's.
If Jeebh is indeed KR Vlam, then I hope he'd become KR Vlam permanently until the end of the story, and not become a mere initial test subject like Sabimaru who transformed into KR Dread. I like it when an underdog character becomes a Rider in a way that makes sense.
Or mmmaaayyybbbeee I'm 100% wrong about everything, haha.
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